stonemaster499
noticing nice landscape pebbles
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Post by stonemaster499 on Apr 19, 2015 11:09:10 GMT -5
My vibe is very quiet when using dry polish stage. You barely know its on, it just hums along. The sealed lid keeps it quiet. Hard stones, during a grind stage, that is a different story, as it is much louder.
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Post by orrum on Apr 19, 2015 11:38:21 GMT -5
Stoneman term does your polish method polish the stone by erasing scratches with finer and finer media or does it polish like Zam does? I ask because Zam actually polishs and can yellow and fade over time as the wax drys and wears off
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stonemaster499
noticing nice landscape pebbles
Member since July 2014
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Post by stonemaster499 on Apr 19, 2015 12:49:56 GMT -5
Stoneman term does your polish method polish the stone by erasing scratches with finer and finer media or does it polish like Zam does? I ask because Zam actually polishs and can yellow and fade over time as the wax drys and wears off I can only describe it as magical. When finishing a softer/delicate stone (those following this tread understand we are in a vibe for finishing), I observe that the stone get worse and worse with time, especially in the 1000 step (small fractures, cracks etc.) With controls and experience this can be minimized. Now, 48 hours into the dry polish and the magic starts. I call it magic, as others here will too with time It is the most dramatic stage for me, and always ends in "wow". Product looks like candy. 72 hours is perfect for me. Many of the imperfections are corrected. Problems seem to melt away. If working a hard stone, and you notice these problems prior to polish, you know you need to rework ! This isn't the case with soft stones. ***My theory Under 200x mag comparing dry polish versus wet polish for soft stone. Wet polish always fails as the stones are not "rotated/ vibrated" evenly. This leads to poor results. My poor results meaning requiring rework. However, with dry polish the soft rocks are evenly polished on all surfaces. There are 2 additional "secrets" that will make the rock appear perfect, and ready for market.. and we can save this for another post.
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Post by orrum on Apr 19, 2015 12:56:44 GMT -5
Thanks Stonemaster. Where do you get this dry material?
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stonemaster499
noticing nice landscape pebbles
Member since July 2014
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Post by stonemaster499 on Apr 19, 2015 13:21:40 GMT -5
Thanks Stonemaster. Where do you get this dry material? any dry media will work. I have personally used walnut shells, corn cob media, and saw dust with excellent results. Others have have small ceramic balls and small steel pins. A good tumbling supplier will sell a dry media. You can save money, and look for reloading media on Amazon ( approx $2/lb) I think my UV-10 takes 1.5 lbs, but this is w/o my logs and from my memory. You can reuse the media many times, and I dedicate a bowl for dry polish. no cleaning. no mess. no work. **warning: Do not get any dry media precharged with abrasives! *** super-washing soft stones before polish can do much more damage than good, if you are not using the thickeners required to slow down and cushion the slurry. I would advise skipping this step, and doing a good manual wash; unless of course you have do have the necessary cushioning under control.
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stonemaster499
noticing nice landscape pebbles
Member since July 2014
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Post by stonemaster499 on Apr 19, 2015 13:26:10 GMT -5
Dust is an issue. Wear a mask. I seal my vibe with a plastic bag on the bottom of the bowl. Thanks. Will do if I get a vibe. Back in the day, I also ran it outside on a covered porch to keep off (the very frequent southeast Louisiana) rain but to keep the dust out of the house. Probably another reason the neighbors could hear it. The rotary is also out there going 24/7 but they simply don't hear that one. 3# Harbor Freight Chicago cheapie...laugh if you like and most people here do laugh but it IS quiet. I'm going back and forth about whether or not to get a small vibe just to run it in summer when they've got their AC units going anyway...maybe not this summer. I do have a lot of projects going OK just in the rotary for now... Actually I still have the Lot O and the 50# concrete block plus cushion thingy it used to sit on but I can't believe it would still work after all these years. I forgot to mention that you can use small ceramic balls in your dry polish or steel pins, avoiding the dust altogether. I have not used these, but Shawn at the Rockshed gave me these and had success using them himself.
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peachfront
fully equipped rock polisher
Stones have begun to speak, because an ear is there to hear them.
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Post by peachfront on Apr 19, 2015 16:30:25 GMT -5
This is very helpful. I guess I don't know what stage the neighbors happened to notice my vibe. It was too long ago. I did no grinding in the Lot O -- it just wouldn't grind -- but I was doing the sanding stage & maybe that's what they heard. Hmmm. I wonder.
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Fossilman
Cave Dweller
Member since January 2009
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 19, 2015 16:50:20 GMT -5
700,that's a lot of rock..............LOL
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