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Post by txrockhunter on Oct 10, 2015 22:10:57 GMT -5
Found these 2 arrowheads, canvasing the San Jacinto River gravels. They happen to be the 1st arrowheads that I have ever found! jamesp#1 Front - I met a Flint Knapper at the Houston Gem and Mineral Show, who identified this as a Scottsbluff Point. It's about 2-1/2 inches long without the tip. #2 Front - Hadn't found this by the time we went to the HGMS, so I have no idea what it is. It is made of petrified wood, but it's construction pails in comparison to the Scottsbluff. It is about 1-1/2 inches long. #2 Back -
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Post by Tom on Oct 10, 2015 22:22:11 GMT -5
Very cool, where there is 2 there is more?
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Post by txrockhunter on Oct 10, 2015 22:58:20 GMT -5
Needle in a haystack! I actually found the 2 arrowheads by accident, reaching for rocks. After I found out the value of the Scottsbluff Point, I started looking for them exclusively and found none. The shear volume of rocks makes it almost impossible to concentrate on one thing, but I'll keep looking.
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 10, 2015 22:58:12 GMT -5
Not too man side notched points from Texas so what you have there is probably a San Jacinto or a Figueroa point. Don't think the first one is a Scotts Bluff. More likely a Carrollton, Coryell or Morhiss point. Check out the type collection on the Texas Arrowheads website.
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Post by Tom on Oct 11, 2015 1:19:52 GMT -5
Needle in a haystack! I actually found the 2 arrowheads by accident, reaching for rocks. After I found out the value of the Scottsbluff Point, I started looking for them exclusively and found none. The shear volume of rocks makes it almost impossible to concentrate on one thing, but I'll keep looking. Yep kind of like looking for Fairburns in the SD agate beds? Good luck you will get more
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Post by jamesp on Oct 11, 2015 7:04:12 GMT -5
Agree with Mel, not a scottsbluff. But killer finds. Nice black material, and you need to find out what/where the black material is about. Find out where your native buddies were getting ti from. Most likely they have a source and they like it for making points. We have mines over here, some 30 miles across where they mined chert outcrops(ex. Savannah River Agate). You can fill 5 gallon buckets of petrified coral chips that the Natives chipped from the rivers in S Georgia. Funny, they chipped up some of the finest coral. Where did they find that fine coral ? perhaps it was a secret pocket handed down by his relative 30 generations ago. I can't find what they found... Notice the quality of the material of that first point, that is some fine clearish chipping material. Ask around, bet local point collectors will tell you where it came from. By the way, that first point looks reworked where it broke. Looks like he converted a broken point into a tool. Correction, the tip is reworked. Makes it special-look up 'edgefield'. As far as the 2nd point, yes it is ugly but would be cherished by me because it is wood. No matter the looks, some Native chipped that out of pet wood. Score. Most pet wood terrible for making points. Often has cleavage/grain issues. I got you gravel. It is fine agates/palm and wood. Too small to make points, betcha that black material is vein material somewhere close to you(not washed down from a great distance). i thought this spear was broken. Ended up being a rare transitional paleo 'Edgefield'. A tool. May have been a reworked 'Bolen' point. We will never know. One of my better finds ever.
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Post by Fossilman on Oct 11, 2015 9:35:52 GMT -5
SCORE!!! I enjoy a good find on arrowheads too........Don't hunt them much in Oregon ( I do have a few),the laws here are crazy stupid about picking up artifacts!!! Anyhow,nice points....Thumbs up
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 11, 2015 15:25:08 GMT -5
Oh by that way, re: Jame's comment on the material used for that first point. Looks like the Edwards root beer flint the Amerinds quarried right here in Gillespie county and at locations all over the Texas Hill country. I have an Amerind quarry for that material on a hill I own. It was traded all over so it would not be unusual to find it anywhere in Texas....Mel
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Post by txrockhunter on Oct 27, 2015 12:42:06 GMT -5
Thank you guys ( Sabre52 & jamesp), for the ID and background on these! Below are a couple pieces that I found in Mountain Home, TX, just outside Kerrville. They looked like they have been worked, but thought I would ask those that have a great deal more experience than I do...... This is about 5" long. This is about 3" wide. After posting the arrowheads that I had found, my father sent me a collection of arrowheads that my Grandfather had collected when he was a boy. To the best of my Dad's knowledge, they were found in Kewanee, IL, in the early to mid 1920's. If anyone has any information about them, I would love to pass it on to my Dad! Thanks for looking! Jeremy
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Post by quartz on Oct 27, 2015 23:37:27 GMT -5
"Thanks for looking", thanks for sharing. Always enjoy seeing points and tools. Nothing warms the mind like running across something like these while out rocking.
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Post by Fossilman on Oct 28, 2015 9:00:29 GMT -5
NICE,thank you for posting these....Thumbs up
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 28, 2015 21:54:16 GMT -5
Jeremy, these are great! And that's awesome that the family is handing down finds ... very cool collection.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2015 22:29:37 GMT -5
Great tools Jeremy. Mel mentioned root beer flint
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Post by txrockhunter on Oct 29, 2015 7:18:22 GMT -5
Jeremy, these are great! And that's awesome that the family is handing down finds ... very cool collection. Thanks, Paul! I am really glad that my Dad kept them! I also received my Grandfather's Agate Marbles "aggies", or what's left of them. I will post some pictures when I get a chance.
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Post by txrockhunter on Oct 29, 2015 7:28:55 GMT -5
Great tools Jeremy. Mel mentioned root beer flint The flint was readily available where I found the tools. Some of the flint, or what I think is flint, was a translucent, blue-ish / purple. I was up there looking for fossils & found a bunch of large Gastropod fossils that were encased in that material.
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Post by nowyo on Oct 29, 2015 9:08:03 GMT -5
Nice points, cool find.
Russ
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Post by jamesp on Oct 29, 2015 9:33:31 GMT -5
Nice nodule size for the natives to tote for trade. They carried them in their Levi's. ha Our silicified coral comes in packages like that. Often with a thinner white hull(less waste) to carry. That appears to be a very high grade glassy material. modern day knappers love root beer flint.
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