Intheswamp
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Post by Intheswamp on Oct 29, 2015 12:01:35 GMT -5
Don't worry about hearing a high-powered rifle go off and getting shot by a deer hunter, Jim. It will be quick and silent...it's bow season.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 29, 2015 13:37:42 GMT -5
If running SiC 80 or 220, I only use 2 tablespoons. And 2 tablespoons for 500-1000-polish. The 80 and 220 grit is shot after a day or two. That thing reduces big grit fast. I do a clean out every day when doing 80 grit. Even at 2 tablespoons it gets pretty muddy. I have run SiC 30 grit, I don't think it wears the polyurethane at all, a real durable rubber. Wife has dog shows in Montgomery around Nov 20. I will run up to Wetumpka 20 miles away and play in your pet wood creeks. Give me a spot I won't get shot at if you don't mind. Like a creek name at a public road crossing so i can be semi protected by the road easement. If you're only doing 2Tbs why do the instructions say use 1Tbsp per pound of rocks?
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Post by jamesp on Oct 29, 2015 22:49:11 GMT -5
I noticed that heavy dose. Answer is-excellent results w/out so much grit. More like a Lotto dose has been working fine. A Lotto is 4 or 5 pounds ? Doesn't it use 1 tablespoon ? those doses are closer to a rotary dose, and that is strange that they suggest so much grit.
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 30, 2015 9:52:09 GMT -5
I noticed that heavy dose. Answer is-excellent results w/out so much grit. More like a Lotto dose has been working fine. A Lotto is 4 or 5 pounds ? Doesn't it use 1 tablespoon ? those doses are closer to a rotary dose, and that is strange that they suggest so much grit. Thanks for answering. Lot-O is 4lbs and it's recommended (on here) to use 2Tbsp 120/220. I'll make sure I use less grit when it comes Monday (110lbs worth).
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 30, 2015 22:40:53 GMT -5
Well I finally took the Lortone FL20 vibe lap apart and cleaned it. It was pretty nasty with old grease and grime. Balls were rotted and melted to machine. Had to get a lighter and scrape them off (well I chose this method anyway). Here's what the balls looked like and just partially how dirty it was Here's video of it running. Wife had to remind me that the jiggly pan needed weight to keep the balls from coming off. A little dirt still in it and you can see it moving. m.flickr.com/#/photos/136551163@N03/22636234001/Pretty quiet jamesp Intheswamp thought you two would like to see it in action (even tho I don't have grit and rocks in it).
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Post by Intheswamp on Oct 31, 2015 9:20:33 GMT -5
That is *very* cool, Jimi. You're definitely getting in business for working up some nice stuff!!!
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 31, 2015 9:23:57 GMT -5
That is *very* cool, Jimi. You're definitely getting in business for working up some nice stuff!!! The great thing about this older equipment is that it's pretty basic in terms of function and fixing. I believe I could have even used small tennis balls instead of ordering my ball and spring kit off mebay
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Post by Intheswamp on Oct 31, 2015 9:31:48 GMT -5
Back "then" they unknowingly used the KISS principle because they didn't have all the advanced technology we have these days...but yet, they made it work. Technology keeps "advancing" and people promote the KISS principle as if it's something new. You are very right, some of the old stuff is just about fail-proof...basic mechanics and electrical theory. Hmmm, those hard rubber "super balls" that the kids get out of the bubblegum machines....they're too small, aren't they?
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 31, 2015 11:47:00 GMT -5
Back "then" they unknowingly used the KISS principle because they didn't have all the advanced technology we have these days...but yet, they made it work. Technology keeps "advancing" and people promote the KISS principle as if it's something new. You are very right, some of the old stuff is just about fail-proof...basic mechanics and electrical theory. Hmmm, those hard rubber "super balls" that the kids get out of the bubblegum machines....they're too small, aren't they? Lol yes. Here's where I got mine m.ebay.com/itm/LORTONE-FL15-FL20-FLAT-LAP-SPRING-BALL-KIT-NEW-/201452643274?nav=SEARCH" THE BALLS ARE ABOUT 2" IN DIAMETER AND THE SPRINGS ARE 2-1/8" LONG AND ABOUT 3/8" IN DIAMETER." Edit they might, but it's not going to be this super thick rubber like the balls here are.
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Post by Intheswamp on Oct 31, 2015 12:34:18 GMT -5
I remember as a kid when "Super Balls" appeared. They looked very similar to what you have ordered and probably about that size...much larger than the bubblegum machine balls, but yet smaller than a tennis ball. And, they were *very* hard. You could slam one against the concrete and it'd go as high as a regular pecan tree!!! And, you had to be careful that you didn't hit somebody with one...they really were very, very hard. But, man they would bounce...and keep on bouncing. The ones I see today (grandkids are wonderful) are much softer. Sounds like you're well on your way to having some fine equipment, Jimi. Congratulations!!!
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Post by broseph82 on Oct 31, 2015 16:23:47 GMT -5
jamesp forgot to show you the polish hopper The red is the actual liner and not painted. Looks like it's never been used
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Post by jamesp on Oct 31, 2015 19:13:44 GMT -5
Sell it. They cost like $460 new. or trade it for a 35 pound hopper.
Mine is blue. Hot pink for girls.
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 1, 2015 21:57:33 GMT -5
Since my grit won't be in until tomorrow AND because I was busy all weekend I left the Viking running in the same grit since Thursday. Here's a short snippet of what it looked like after a spray down with water hose
m.flickr.com/#/photos/136551163@N03/22074403733/
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 3, 2015 12:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by Intheswamp on Nov 3, 2015 17:54:07 GMT -5
Nice, Jimi. Those are taking on a nice (quick!) shine. The branch piece...that is some interesting debris...makes ya wonder exactly what it is, eh? Now,...you sure you don't want to send that Viking to me to keep it from catching those rocks on fire?
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 3, 2015 18:27:14 GMT -5
Nice, Jimi. Those are taking on a nice (quick!) shine. The branch piece...that is some interesting debris...makes ya wonder exactly what it is, eh? Now,...you sure you don't want to send that Viking to me to keep it from catching those rocks on fire? Ha ha I'm good. After getting all this equipment I did go out a buy a couple fire extinguishers. The little branch makes me wonder what kind of wood it once was and what filled into that agate. Remember it's at that place I told you about along the water. Mud will ensue a bit but well worth it
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 10, 2015 18:41:06 GMT -5
Quick wash today. Rocks in the morning sun Took out 10 or so to move on to the next stage. After checking on it later I felt I needed to add a few more of these (reds). Not much left in the pile
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 10, 2015 20:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2015 4:34:39 GMT -5
Now your tumbling Alabama rock broseph82. Mohs 5 ?? Georgia coral will peel the liner out of the vulcanized Viking vat. Mohs 9 haha and kidding How many 60/90 grit changes did you do ? it rounded it more than expected. If you put coastal chert/coral/Rio agates in there it will not round it much, way to hard. Take my word. You need a rotary, do not fight fact Jimi. All vibes will break SiC 30/60/80/90/120/220 down very fast. Not many run SiC 30-90 in a vibe. You can in the Viking. I have done SiC 30, it is reduced to about SiC 220 in 8 hours. Too fast of a grit breakdown to rough grind. AO 500-1000 and AO polish much slower to break down. For instance AO 500 takes about 3 days. SiC a bit brittle for the vibe. I should be headed to S Alabama at end of month to get some of that wood. Will run it in the rotary and see how fast it rounds out. Will do scratch tests on it to see if I can get a Mohs # on it. Can you tell me where I can find it ? I all be going to Montgomery.
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Post by broseph82 on Nov 11, 2015 8:55:52 GMT -5
jamesp lol at your MOHs 5 comment. Just tried to scratch a piece with a quartz point and it just slid across the surface. Try again sir. My change out is about every 2 days or so in 3 Tbsp of 60/90. I add sugar or borax when I feel it's needed. Like to switch it up. I'll send you coordinates via PM.
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