rockitman
freely admits to licking rocks
Member since September 2007
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Oct 29, 2007 11:35:56 GMT -5
Post by rockitman on Oct 29, 2007 11:35:56 GMT -5
“Imitation is the sincerest flattery”
As with any student he is an extension. This board/group/class/family, is and will be like a giant tree. We/the little branches know where the tap root is and where it comes from. Thats why I will keep hanging on. I don't think that new branch is going to hurt this solid tree. ..... Ok I'll shut up .. Jim
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Oct 29, 2007 13:43:06 GMT -5
Post by Tonyterner on Oct 29, 2007 13:43:06 GMT -5
Like others I frequent both boards as well as another not mentioned. I do spend a lot more time on this board though. Dan was the first person to welcome me here and I know he loves this site. I personally have never been approached by Dan or anyone else asking me to leave here and go somewhere else (although I wouldn't be suprised if some here wish that I would ;D ).
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Oct 29, 2007 14:28:29 GMT -5
Post by catmandewe on Oct 29, 2007 14:28:29 GMT -5
I agree, Dan's board takes a different tangent than this board, and does not detract from the members of this board, but rather enhances it. His board is more towards the artisan, this board is more family like. Hope this dissension does not create a rift, as everyone here is an important part of this board..................Tony
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Oct 29, 2007 14:51:16 GMT -5
Post by hermatite on Oct 29, 2007 14:51:16 GMT -5
I say you gotta dance with the one that brought ya. If it wasn't for Mark and this site I wouldn't even be in the hobby in the first place. I'm not much for the "we're all one family" and such..but this I owe this site and Mark everything that I've learned. When I need inspiration I come here. When I need a laugh, I come here. Heck, when I need to tell a dumb joke I just heard, I come here. I feel a very strong sense of loyalty to this board and what's been created. And, as I've said before, I'm opposed to anything that creates a sense of division...no matter where it comes from. I don't say it often enough..but thanks Mark. And post like doc says...post pics of the little guy!
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Oct 29, 2007 16:10:47 GMT -5
Post by texaswoodie on Oct 29, 2007 16:10:47 GMT -5
I'm with Mel. The more the merrier. I have 4 rock boards I frequent and one that has nothing to do with rocks. I don't think anything is being taken away from this board by having another one.....or 100 more.
Curt
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Oct 29, 2007 17:13:04 GMT -5
Post by krazydiamond on Oct 29, 2007 17:13:04 GMT -5
i hardly have time to keep up with this board much less 2 or 100. the RTH has been divided and diminished, irrespective of the initial good intentions of the other board. the road to hell is paved with them, so they say.
there's no place like home.
KD
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Oct 29, 2007 17:37:18 GMT -5
Post by mailman on Oct 29, 2007 17:37:18 GMT -5
Mark. Perhaps I don't know the whole story here but I do know and respect Dan. He loved the RTH board very much and would have done nothing to hurt it. It appears that the conflict between the two of you may include more than a few PMs among friends. Even though I am not a regular contributor to the board, I have enjoyed the banter, pics and friendships on RTH. I too have PM'd one or two people asking them to stop in and visit Dan's board. Since you appear to be so adamant about the issue I guess I 'll save you the trouble of banning me from the board. I'll miss you all (except Trouble) Don the Mailman
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nancyf
has rocks in the head
Wired Cowgirl
Member since April 2007
Posts: 629
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Oct 29, 2007 18:24:19 GMT -5
Post by nancyf on Oct 29, 2007 18:24:19 GMT -5
I agree with Terry, Susan, etc...and I loved what Jim said...a giant tree...too cool! I just went to Dan's site to see what the heck was going on. I was clueless...and uh...nosey! Anywho, there were indeed people there who do not know of RTH and Dan has put a link to RTH on his public forum...this will indeed send more people here. His site is indeed geared towards jewelry of all kinds made with what used to be rocks (now cabs mostly)...being a jeweller and rock lover, I like it. I don't think Dan is a bad person at all and I don't think he meant to cause any problems. However, Mark...this is indeed your baby and if you had that rule in place, then that is that. I certainly believe in upholding rules. I moderate a fairly large forum myself and I know it can be tuff.
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Oct 29, 2007 18:40:42 GMT -5
Post by Condor on Oct 29, 2007 18:40:42 GMT -5
I have never gotten involved in any kind of controversy here. I always just observe, but I must say that there have been much more serious issues that have taken a back seat to what is going on right now. I too believe in the freedom of the press and speech, and I have seen some really hateful things said about various groups, and they have been allowed to continue to fester, and grow. This board is one of the best around probably because of it, but now that there is something that has irritated you Mark, the rules have slightly changed. Perhaps Dan did use this site in an inappropriate way, but honestly, has it lost members? On the contrary, it keeps growing, and growing. He's out there promoting this site plus others. I don't see this in return, nor should it have to be that way. I know Dan personally, and I know he did not do this in a malicious manner. I totally agree with what Susan and others have said.
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Oct 29, 2007 18:52:09 GMT -5
Post by cpdad on Oct 29, 2007 18:52:09 GMT -5
first of all...why not agree and disagree...instead of deleting yourselfs....dan...mailman...are you trying to prove a point by deleting yourselfs....why couldnt 1 or both of you say...sorry i didnt know it was bad ettiquite...hell i didnt know either...even tho this is the only board i belong to ;D.
mark made his point...and he made it clear he dont want stuff like this to take place....shouldnt we say ok...wont do that no more ;D.
seems people are taking stuff to serious....and getting mad and forgetting to smile ;D...even when disagreeing with someone...mark did sound forceful....but i looked at and smiled ;D...let me tell ya why.
i have learned to smile at anything that comes my way lately.....and i mean anything...sept when im pouting ;D.
i am waiting for my little brother to die anyday....i expect to come home and find him dead in my house anytime now.
my wages have been garnished...and i cant hardly pay anything...i have no phone....i have no gas...i boil water for baths every afternoon....gotta stay clean ;D....i let a friend buy 1 of my cars...he was gonna pay weekly...so i would have extra money...he skipped town with my car....i have to pay insurance on it...cause im scared something will happen...and its still in my name.
want more.....had a good friend killed in a bio deisel plant explosion....he was totally disfigured.....yep his head was seperated from his body.....he had 3 small children....just ripped me apart.....a very very dear friend was his boss....it totally wrecked him...so thats 2 good friends messed up....i didnt know what to do....just totally screwed up.
my older brother had a bad stroke...hes a little better now....thank goodness ;D....and i had to cash my little retirement savings to get by for the next year....i got more....but i beleive my point is made ;D...all of this within 6 months
agree and disagree....no point of getting to pissed about anything....just smile while being pissed ;D...it helps a lot...your heart might last a little longer if you smile more when pissed ;D..kev.
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Oct 29, 2007 18:59:09 GMT -5
Post by krazydiamond on Oct 29, 2007 18:59:09 GMT -5
Kev, you, as usual, point out the real truth in this world. thank you for getting us back to reality.
KD
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Oct 29, 2007 19:06:20 GMT -5
Post by rocklicker on Oct 29, 2007 19:06:20 GMT -5
Yeah Kev, thatnks for setting us straight. You really put it all into perspective. Steve
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Oct 29, 2007 19:09:10 GMT -5
Post by texaswoodie on Oct 29, 2007 19:09:10 GMT -5
Kevin I'm very sorry all this has happened to you. Man, when it rains it pours, doesn't it?
Of course you have hit it on the spot. Dang, just enjoy the board, this one that one, and any other that you frequent. I know of at least one person that has quit 3 times since I signed up in Jan. Good grief, life is too short.
Curt
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Oct 29, 2007 19:15:45 GMT -5
Post by sbreed on Oct 29, 2007 19:15:45 GMT -5
All I will say is..........I am with Susan and the rest. I know Dan personally and he would NEVER intentially hurt this board. I visit his board but this one will always be home! He promotes RTH on his board. Its kind of like moving, you have a new place but home will always be where you grew up. I grew up on RTH as did a bunch of us. It will always be home!
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spikeict
fully equipped rock polisher
Alba gu bra! In Promptu
Member since November 2006
Posts: 1,413
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Oct 29, 2007 19:16:00 GMT -5
Post by spikeict on Oct 29, 2007 19:16:00 GMT -5
I guess I had better speak up, I thought this was over months ago. I also am a member of 3 boards, found a another today and may or may not join it. Even if I do it does not mean I will leave any of the others.
I to am guilty of telling someone here about Blarney's board in a pm, I think the words I used were "his new board has emphasis on ..... I think you would like it also. I do not like to cross post and haven't been posting anywhere for awhile as real life has been getting in the way.
If I can't log in sometime in the next day or two then I will know I messed up. I hate that I can't talk to three close friends that I met through here, about something related to RTH anymore because they are no longer here.
Spike
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Oct 29, 2007 19:17:48 GMT -5
Post by beefjello on Oct 29, 2007 19:17:48 GMT -5
Since you appear to be so adamant about the issue I guess I 'll save you the trouble of banning me from the board. Ban who you will, it will only limit your creation's possibilities and potential. Ban me if you like. I don't give a rat's rear end! I too am not very keen on getting involved with controversial issues here, however I feel that these comments are completely unfair. Both Don and Mcbob seem to be trying to paint a picture of Mark as some kind of ban-happy tyrant. In my observations from participating here for the past year this simply is NOT the truth. I think it also needs to be noted that the link to RTH on Dan's general board that keeps getting referenced was added just this morning, well after this whole mess erupted. I can understand the frustrations and emotions coming from everyone, this is obviously a sensitive subject. But lets keep it on the level folks. Dan chose to quit the group. He wasn't banned. I agree with people 100% that Dan's a great guy. He adds a LOT to RTH. He's knowledgeable, friendly, generous and very skilled with his stone work and his wire wrapping. I sincerely hope that when cooler heads prevail he decides to return to us. I hope everyone can just take a deep cleansing breath and let this blow over. It's not worth the ill feelings it's creating. There's my 2 pennies. Spend 'em as you see fit.
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181lizard
Cave Dweller
Still lurking :)
Member since December 2005
Posts: 2,171
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Oct 29, 2007 19:27:18 GMT -5
Post by 181lizard on Oct 29, 2007 19:27:18 GMT -5
I've been pretty MIA here recently. Sheesh! I adore Dan and feel I understood him maybe more easily than others. Not better, just easier. Alas...after having been here a couple of years, it wasn't a hard leap to see where this whole thing was gonna land. The writing was on the wall. Mark, this is your baby. I've NEVER seen you handle anything with other than total grace and for THAT...you deserve highest praise possible and you have my sincere admiration. Those that use this time of dissent to vent your dislike of him, please remember, it shows no class to beat a dead horse. Kevin...you the man! Damn...now I've got a lot of catchin up to do...
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spikeict
fully equipped rock polisher
Alba gu bra! In Promptu
Member since November 2006
Posts: 1,413
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Oct 29, 2007 19:48:06 GMT -5
Post by spikeict on Oct 29, 2007 19:48:06 GMT -5
Liz, I don't see anyone venting a dislike for Mark. They would not be here if that is the way they felt. Including me, I just don't understand why it is coming up now, and stepping up to say that I told someone also.
Spike
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181lizard
Cave Dweller
Still lurking :)
Member since December 2005
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Oct 29, 2007 20:07:45 GMT -5
Post by 181lizard on Oct 29, 2007 20:07:45 GMT -5
Oooppps! My meaning was for those taking a whack at Dan. (heavens to mergatroid...no one had better EVER dis Mark!) Sorry I wasn't as clear as I should have been...my bad.
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Oct 29, 2007 20:29:28 GMT -5
Post by ladyt on Oct 29, 2007 20:29:28 GMT -5
I think Marks first posting about this is what caused the deletion of a few accounts. Mark has since come in and rephrased his post. When I was invited to the other board, it was done with complete honour for this board. When the other board was renamed, it was noted so that board was not to be the same as this one. Both boards could interact with each other as this is a TUMBLING board that has grown into much more. His is a jewlery and artistic Board showing what we make from rocks, and has things this board doesn't. Dan also posted a message on this board, explaining what he was doing and that he respected Mark and wasn't going to step on toes. The post was removed immediatley. Someone earlier said this board has been hurt by the other board. Can you please explain how & why? This is Marks website, which I honor that fact. But hold on... he don't own the internet. Some folks on this board, only visit this board. Some visit many more. Who's to say you can't be a member of more than one?
I really dislike arguing and I totaly dislike seeing people upset. Nobody is dishing Mark, but things can get said about others and it's ok. Why? If Mark is wrong, than he's wrong. He is a human. We make mistakes. If this thread is a mistake and Mark rephrased things after people were hurt, he needs to stand up and say so. No matter what anyone including myself thinks. This is Marks board and appartently he felt it nessecary to air his displeasement for all to see. If I get banned, than so be it. There are only a few( 10 or so hounds) that have made me feel welcome here anyway. I came here to learn and got burned many times. Now I come to read and look at pics. Occassionaly I'll respond to something, but not often. Sorry for my rant, the road goes both ways. Dan did nothing wrong. Mark if you are going to make up rules as we go, post them for all to read.
Tonja
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