monna0000
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by monna0000 on Nov 26, 2016 19:55:52 GMT -5
Read a tip on Facebook on how to make those round cabs using a dremmel on the wheel. Did try it out and it worked great for the first one. So found a pack of nails the fitted my dremmel perfect and a glue gun and 10 minuts later I had lined up 30 preforms to be turned into buttons but for some reason the next 4 cabs turned out uneven. Fat in one side, but my brain can't figure out what I'm doing wrong?? Any suggestions?
Yes did have a couple to fly of, it's really dangerus and I'm sure that at some point it will cause a lot of pain😜
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 26, 2016 20:05:28 GMT -5
Can you link to the directions? I don't know about the tip you're referring to. It might be handy for making beads.
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Post by vegasjames on Nov 26, 2016 20:08:34 GMT -5
I saw the post also. The guy was gluing the rounded preforms on an small nail then inserting the nail in a Dremel so the preform will spin. Then he used the cabbing machine to round the preform as it was spinning with the Dremel. Made a lot of sense and I was going to try it myself, but have not done it yet.
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monna0000
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Post by monna0000 on Nov 27, 2016 3:00:16 GMT -5
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monna0000
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Post by monna0000 on Nov 27, 2016 8:21:14 GMT -5
Fresh of the dremmel. Still needs to practice some more to get it perfect, but it's fast as hell....
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Nov 27, 2016 13:26:35 GMT -5
Sounds dangerous! So it must be fun I have to try it! Now where is my safety goggles? Are you making them to use?
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Post by Pat on Nov 27, 2016 13:44:33 GMT -5
stoner has directions on here. I think it was part of another thread.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 28, 2016 11:49:26 GMT -5
I was working on some Pandora type beads this weekend for my wife. I have cylinders shaped, but I have to round off the ends before I toss them in the tumbler. I might use this method. I'm thinking of using a bolt with the head cut off chucked in my drill. I'll dip the threaded end in dop wax and insert it into the hole. I'll have to reverse it to do the other side. I'm a little concerned about cleaning the wax out of the holes. Does anyone know if any harm would be done by putting the finished beads in hot or boiling water to remove the wax? It needs to be all gone so I can glue in sterling grommets and be sure they stay put.
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Post by Pat on Nov 28, 2016 13:25:43 GMT -5
You could use Locktite Gel. I use the flat top of a big bolt. No wax.
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Nov 28, 2016 14:00:11 GMT -5
Rob, if the bolt head & nut are smaller diameter than the bead, just use the nut to "clamp" the bead on the bolt.
I hope that makes sense.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 28, 2016 16:38:03 GMT -5
I wasn't clear. I'm going to insert the threaded end into the bead (the bead is fairly long, over half an inch). The threaded end will not protrude from the end of the bead. There will be no nut. This will allow me to bring the end of the cylinder shaped bead into the wheel to make a 45 degree angle bevel. Then I'll round from there. The bead is longer than it's diameter, so a nut would take up most of the end of the bead and not allow access to the end of the bead. A few pictures should clear this up. Here are the beads I've already made for her. These are soft rocks (Kona dolomite and a local fossil) so I did them all on the wheels. They are far from perfect. I want the next set to be more cylindrical with rounded corners. The next set is made of rocks I can tumble, so I'm just going to rough them out on the wheels and then tumble them in the Lot-O. Here's what I have done so far. Here's how I want the bolt to be. I'm just wondering if I should use hot glue, wax, or something else. IMG_6278 by jugglerguy, on Flickr
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 28, 2016 16:38:56 GMT -5
I just realized that my picture was of the one bead that needs the end ground off to eliminate the blow out from the drill.
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Nov 28, 2016 17:26:34 GMT -5
Rob, what diameter is the inside hole on the bead? Would a rubber drum (for sanding) from a dremel work? Just put the bead onto the drum instead of the sanding band & tighten it.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 28, 2016 17:45:22 GMT -5
Great idea, Nate. Unfortunately, the small rubber drum is a little too big. Bummer.
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Post by NDK on Nov 28, 2016 17:51:28 GMT -5
Dang. That probably would've worked great too...
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monna0000
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Post by monna0000 on Nov 29, 2016 5:56:16 GMT -5
I wasn't clear. I'm going to insert the threaded end into the bead (the bead is fairly long, over half an inch). The threaded end will not protrude from the end of the bead. There will be no nut. This will allow me to bring the end of the cylinder shaped bead into the wheel to make a 45 degree angle bevel. Then I'll round from there. The bead is longer than it's diameter, so a nut would take up most of the end of the bead and not allow access to the end of the bead. A few pictures should clear this up. Here are the beads I've already made for her. These are soft rocks (Kona dolomite and a local fossil) so I did them all on the wheels. They are far from perfect. I want the next set to be more cylindrical with rounded corners. The next set is made of rocks I can tumble, so I'm just going to rough them out on the wheels and then tumble them in the Lot-O. Here's what I have done so far. Here's how I want the bolt to be. I'm just wondering if I should use hot glue, wax, or something else. IMG_6278 by jugglerguy, on Flickr I think both hot glue or wax will do the trick. Just remember to heat the dop/stick. Use low speed and wear protection!!! I'm surpriced that i haven't injuried my self or any body yet. I would also suggest that you start on the 220 wheel. I've noticed that the 80 or 120 are to rough on the stone even on flint I've had small pieces coming of.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 29, 2016 16:11:09 GMT -5
I had good success last night using hot glue. I applied it to the bolt threads and then quickly jammed it in and twisted. I had one fall off, but it wasn't a problem. The glue came out with the bold and pealed off the bolt fairly easily. The whole process went very well. The beads are now in the Lot-O. Thanks for the good idea!
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monna0000
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Post by monna0000 on Nov 29, 2016 21:46:46 GMT -5
I had good success last night using hot glue. I applied it to the bolt threads and then quickly jammed it in and twisted. I had one fall off, but it wasn't a problem. The glue came out with the bold and pealed off the bolt fairly easily. The whole process went very well. The beads are now in the Lot-O. Thanks for the good idea! The pics didn't load🤓🙃
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 29, 2016 22:25:58 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't take any. I'll post pictures in about a week when they come out of the Lot-O.
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