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Post by captbob on Jan 20, 2017 18:07:23 GMT -5
Good post Bill. On site picture hosting would require a hosting site / space / server. That ain't free, although I haven't (yet) checked into those costs, I imagine that would take a boat load of hosting server space with all the photos we post here. As you said, the value is what someone will pay. The asset(s) here are the community - which could move in mass should things go south here. Can you imagine the horror the folks on another site would have seeing this motley crew show up on their doorstep all at once! The other asset would be, as metalsmith said above, the "historical content". THAT would be a loss. It would be kinda like your house burning down - you lost most of your stuff, but life goes on and you (we all) survive. I don't think this forum is going anywhere any time soon. just sayin'
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Don
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He wants you too, Malachi.
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Post by Don on Jan 20, 2017 18:59:12 GMT -5
So I use to sell, train and raise horses..... That being said, what is the value of a horse and how do you determine it??? Winning show record? Great pedigree? Perfect conformation? Great offspring??? All these have nothing to do with the animals value!!! The value is determined by what another person is willing to pay! What the general market will bear weighs in heavily. Ok so what's that got to do with RTH??? Everything my friends... The old Lapidary/Gemstone Community Forum was for sale for quite a while last year.....no takers so the owner finally was gracious enough to give it to one of the members and now it is called The Lapidary Forum. I belong and enjoynit very much as are quite a few of yall. A very nice site....Did you know you can post pics directly to the forum there?? Therefore I advance the proposition that RTH will sell very when??? If yall do buy it then please fix the pic posting issue. Facebook as a example thrives off folks posting pics!!! I belong to several forums and RTH is the only one I cannot post pics to direct. My suggestion is that with the downsizing of many things on the Internet caused by mega social media maybe.... Yep I am.gonna say it. Maybe we should pursue combining with them other folks??? All successful thriving clubs, and make no mistake RTH is a club, share one great item that makes them successful. You gotta have a person or core group to be willing to live, eat and breath the management and work and sacrifice daily to make it work and keep it growing forward. That other forrum has proven to me that they r willing and able to handle the heavy load of computerize etc daily! In addition they saved and archived the entire old site with pics as the valuable resource it was and still is. Just thinking out load guys n gals...I don't wanna lose yall. I worked too hard to get with, learn and love each and every one of you ground off fingertip, glue covered, doping ,rock snot addicted yahoos!!! LOL Actually, the gemstone community forum was never offered up for sale by George. He had just come to the point where he no longer could be involved. The forum keys were passed to others. The new admins reneged on their promise to keep the forum running and quickly shut down the forum to drive the membership over to their own forum which had been hobbling along for a few years without much participation, under the guise of altruism. A copy of old forum was eventually archived and moved to a sub forum of their forum while permanently shutting down the original forum which had been self sustaining for years thanks to the donations made by long time members. Many of the original members, including myself felt betrayed by the whole ordeal. RTH is the only forum I currently participate in.
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Post by spiceman on Jan 20, 2017 21:39:12 GMT -5
Good post Bill. On site picture hosting would require a hosting site / space / server. That ain't free, although I haven't (yet) checked into those costs, I imagine that would take a boat load of hosting server space with all the photos we post here. As you said, the value is what someone will pay. The asset(s) here are the community - which could move in mass should things go south here. Can you imagine the horror the folks on another site would have seeing this motley crew show up on their doorstep all at once! :D The other asset would be, as metalsmith said above, the "historical content". THAT would be a loss. It would be kinda like your house burning down - you lost most of your stuff, but life goes on and you (we all) survive. I don't think this forum is going anywhere any time soon. just sayin' A very positive attitude. The site will be here, don't stop.
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mikeinsjc
spending too much on rocks
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Post by mikeinsjc on Jan 20, 2017 22:34:43 GMT -5
I'm not much of a facebook person, but have just started one for my summer business. I find it very difficult to use or make sense of. Nevertheless, my kids suggested I do it as most "real" small businesses have a page. If RTH is going away, I would be glad to have anyone who wants join it- might be a way to stay in touch. Don't laugh at the crudeness of the site. Look up Cooke City Rocks on facebook.
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metalsmith
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Post by metalsmith on Jan 21, 2017 3:01:37 GMT -5
I'm not much of a facebook person, but have just started one for my summer business. I find it very difficult to use or make sense of. Nevertheless, my kids suggested I do it as most "real" small businesses have a page. If RTH is going away, I would be glad to have anyone who wants join it- might be a way to stay in touch. Don't laugh at the crudeness of the site. Look up Cooke City Rocks on facebook. A kind offer but I'm not on Farcebook and many others here are not. One of my principle objections is that their T's & C's state they assume copyright of any images posted there. Now nobody is breaking down my door asking for my images of rocks, but that's by the by. My fundamental objection stands (cripes - now I'm a fundamentalist Facebook Yorkshire Terrierist!) and the only way to object is to not be there. I think that we just watch the sand drain through the timer without getting over-sensitive about it. What will be will be and there will be a positive end to this, one way or another, involving more or less effort.
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Post by orrum on Jan 21, 2017 9:26:44 GMT -5
Me I am open to any solution that keeps us together. That being said, I hope we will soon discover a way to host pics. Other sites are doing it somehow. I am digitally challenged so I have no ideas or solutions. I just know that someone here does and we will continue to walk, leap and progress into the future!
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Post by roy on Jan 21, 2017 12:42:41 GMT -5
i find it funny that a price was not put up !this forum is only here because of the members if its sold to the wrong person for purly advertising then no one will want to be here anymore
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 21, 2017 13:08:28 GMT -5
i find it funny that a price was not put up !this forum is only here because of the members if its sold to the wrong person for purly advertising then no one will want to be here anymore Yes, if a price were made public it would make it easier for us to come up with a plan. SAVE RTH!!
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Post by captbob on Jan 21, 2017 13:10:44 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 21, 2017 13:14:33 GMT -5
OK, second idea.... what if the price were posted and interested members could then decide if the cost were worth contributing to to keep the board running? rockpickerforever Jean, has 30 or 40 people who have responded to her post to share contact info. What if that many were interested in chipping in?? The cost wouldn't be so huge. THEN we could use the front page as a guide to the forum. Put in all the pertinent info and collect some links the way 1dave has done. Then the frontpage would just be like a landing page for the forum. It could be done real nice. The cost wouldn't be huge and the problem of the frontpage and who should use it is gone. Really, everyone here is here for the forum.
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Post by captbob on Jan 21, 2017 13:24:21 GMT -5
5 people and they might have to think about it, but it probably wouldn't hurt too much. 10 just made it a bunch easier. 25 people and many here may spend the equivalent of their share on fancy coffee every month.
A set price would be nice, but I'm thinking this is more like a silent auction.
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RTH SALE
Jan 21, 2017 15:48:20 GMT -5
via mobile
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Post by orrum on Jan 21, 2017 15:48:20 GMT -5
Ok folks as I said I am digitally challenged. That means I cannot male a laptop or smart phone do tricks, however I am sorta business smart. I tend to pat a lot of attention to money, specifically how folks acquire the dirty filthy stuff! LOL.
So let's say you want to use a Web based approach to making a living by staying home and playing with your laptop etc. First you can acquire a situation b with a large Web business that will pay you a per hit price for each time someone looks at your website... Be it a blog, forum or Etsy or whatever. They just want your "thing" on their house so to speak. Amazon is probably the most famous but Walmart, Google etc do it too. So first they pay you just based on the times people look at something on your site. Next you can link to them for shoppers to get stuff from them and if someone buys something then you get an different kind of fee.
Wow and there are other ways you can get money. Sounds easy but it requires a huge amount of time and enervy to keep your site continually drawing more and more "hits".
It looks to me like RTH has about a a page of 20 threads either posted totally new or needy commented on each day. Let's say 100 people including members and non members look at each thread each day. Remember if they don't comment on a thread it doesn't move it to the begginings of new posts.
So here's the math...20 threads renewed times 100 views each equals 2000. Then 2000 times 30 days in a month is 60000. A good figure for price per view is .004 cents. So .004 times 60000 equals $240 dollars.
Now let's say for a example your site is linked to Amazon for their marketing affliate program. I know several folks that make several thousand a month from Amazon from their blogs.
We can also sell info from the blog or forum to help with statistical research for various things and on and on.
It's a interesting thought about what RTH could be worth isn't it?
If you are interested in Web based income sources of this nature a real good blog to read about the basics is a blog written by a married couple living off the grid in Idaho. Google purelivingforlife.com and check out their income thread or cheaprvliving.com.
Just my thinking folks
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Post by 1dave on Jan 21, 2017 16:48:54 GMT -5
I'm sure a committee somewhere has worked well, but I think most are dominated by the most belligerent member. I vote for a single owner . . . BUT that owner has to have some rockhound skin in the game. Has to be young enough to be around for a while. At 80 I'm way too old. That owner shouldn't be too young. The first 75 years of my childhood were the hardest. Does such a person exist? Second choice is rockjunquie's suggestion Question: Is it a domain or a sub domain?
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Post by jakesrocks on Jan 21, 2017 16:49:40 GMT -5
Just my thoughts.
If we could convince Mark to give us a ballpark figure to shoot for, I'd be willing to kick in my part to keep this forum going. If we can manage to buy this site, why not charge an annual fee of the members to keep it going year to year ? The new admin would be able to turn off the ability of an individual to post or answer posts if they refuse to pay their fair share to keep the forum going. New members could be given a grace period of say 6 months to make up their minds if they wanted to pay up or drop out. With the number of active members that we have, it shouldn't add up to more than a few dollars each. Something to think about.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 21, 2017 17:12:14 GMT -5
Just my thoughts. If we could convince Mark to give us a ballpark figure to shoot for, I'd be willing to kick in my part to keep this forum going. If we can manage to buy this site, why not charge an annual fee of the members to keep it going year to year ? The new admin would be able to turn off the ability of an individual to post or answer posts if they refuse to pay their fair share to keep the forum going. New members could be given a grace period of say 6 months to make up their minds if they wanted to pay up or drop out. With the number of active members that we have, it shouldn't add up to more than a few dollars each. Something to think about. I'd pitch in too. Charging for membership would kill this board. I emailed Mark and asked a few questions. It sounds like the board pretty much pays for itself. Original Admin could you give us all a breakdown of expenses and income?
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Post by parfive on Jan 21, 2017 17:35:00 GMT -5
Board full o’ eBay wizards and no one’s sniped this joint yet, eh?
Did rxscram’s unsuccessful bid have a little c in it somewhere? : )
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Post by Pat on Jan 21, 2017 19:35:20 GMT -5
How much money are we talking about here?
Do these sites sell for thousands,hundreds, $7.99?
What is a reasonable range?
Thanks.
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Post by 1dave on Jan 21, 2017 21:48:30 GMT -5
How much money are we talking about here? Do these sites sell for thousands,hundreds, $7.99? What is a reasonable range? Thanks. Value is in the minds of the seller and buyer. What does the buyer want? Prestige, a money making machine, something that can be bought low and resold high, something loved and wanted to be continued with enough pennies in the pocket to make the deal.
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RTH SALE
Jan 21, 2017 21:52:15 GMT -5
via mobile
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Post by orrum on Jan 21, 2017 21:52:15 GMT -5
I agree with Dsve!
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Post by Original Admin on Jan 23, 2017 10:02:49 GMT -5
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