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Post by roy on Jan 23, 2017 11:16:15 GMT -5
come on mark what do you need 2 grand if this were mine i would donate it and write it off
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Post by captbob on Jan 23, 2017 11:41:24 GMT -5
*snort*
Thanks a lot Roy! Orange juice everywhere - busy cleaning keyboard, desk, rocks and monitor.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2017 11:46:28 GMT -5
The RTH sure seems like a fine platform for a respected known dealer in lapidary related items. Such respected known dealer could jump and buy it as a hero and curtail all insecurities. Get front and center on his advertising and have the respect and allowance of a lot of members. And if any one complains about his advertising they will get tar and feathered. Perhaps we could change the borders from blue to this scheme: ETA: Even change our avatars to above image...even add R&B to said image.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2017 11:54:21 GMT -5
New avatars ? I would account for 22,543 ads alone. Sorry, 22,542.
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 24, 2017 0:04:39 GMT -5
Lets start a fund and get people to chip into it, see how much money we have by Feb 23rd, make an offer. Easy peasey lemon squeezy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 0:54:13 GMT -5
Good post Bill. On site picture hosting would require a hosting site / space / server. That ain't free, although I haven't (yet) checked into those costs, I imagine that would take a boat load of hosting server space with all the photos we post here. As you said, the value is what someone will pay. The asset(s) here are the community - which could move in mass should things go south here. Can you imagine the horror the folks on another site would have seeing this motley crew show up on their doorstep all at once! The other asset would be, as metalsmith said above, the "historical content". THAT would be a loss. It would be kinda like your house burning down - you lost most of your stuff, but life goes on and you (we all) survive. I don't think this forum is going anywhere any time soon. just sayin' All.photos are remote. No server space is used for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 0:59:43 GMT -5
i find it funny that a price was not put up !this forum is only here because of the members if its sold to the wrong person for purly advertising then no one will want to be here anymore Yes, if a price were made public it would make it easier for us to come up with a plan. SAVE RTH!!
He is running this auction style. No reserve, no buy it now. Auction ends in 5 weeks. Frankly, and Mark please forgive me, but I find this highly distasteful. A seller should know what he wants and make his offer. Hard to negotiate with ourselves. Very difficult indeed.
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Post by orrum on Jan 24, 2017 9:31:34 GMT -5
No Scott he is not running a suction ftom what I read on his post. He is accepting private offers until the deadline then he can decide to whom and if he wants to sell it. I think that's a good business move. Keeps his personal info confidential.
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Post by captbob on Jan 24, 2017 9:43:40 GMT -5
Lets start a fund and get people to chip into it, see how much money we have by Feb 23rd, make an offer. Easy peasey lemon squeezy. Tony I'm sorry, but I think this idea is fraught with the potential for a bad outcome. The funds would have to be collected and held in hand by someone. Billyjoe saying that he will chip in 50 bucks without actually sending it to a fund manager just wouldn't work. When time came to collect all the pledges some may not pay up for whatever reason. "Sorry, but I had to buy a new water heater." ain't gonna cut it. How are these donations or whatever they are called to be paid? Paypal? What if someone comes in at the end with a higher bid than the fund has raised? All donations would have to be returned. If this fund was the winning offer, the "title" for the domain name and the Admin rights for the forum and Facebook groups would still have to be transferred to a single person. What say do all these people that chipped into the fund have? People will chip in different amounts, someone sending in $10 may feel they have as much say in how things are run as someone that gave $50. Ownership by such a large committee is just bound to be a huge headache. All the indians may want to be chiefs. IF the average contribution was $50, that's 40 people needed just to hit $2,000 - that's a migraine not a headache! A very small group would (probably) work if they have the same goals. Best possible outcome, in my opinion, is a single buyer or very small group - with the desire to keep the forum intact. I couldn't care less what the buyer does with the RTH home page or the Facebook groups. Aside - I spent some time looking at the Facebook groups and it's a selling free for all over there. Headache #2
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 24, 2017 10:26:32 GMT -5
Lets start a fund and get people to chip into it, see how much money we have by Feb 23rd, make an offer. Easy peasey lemon squeezy. Tony I'm sorry, but I think this idea is fraught with the potential for a bad outcome. The funds would have to be collected and held in hand by someone. Billyjoe saying that he will chip in 50 bucks without actually sending it to a fund manager just wouldn't work. When time came to collect all the pledges some may not pay up for whatever reason. "Sorry, but I had to buy a new water heater." ain't gonna cut it. How are these donations or whatever they are called to be paid? Paypal? What if someone comes in at the end with a higher bid than the fund has raised? All donations would have to be returned. If this fund was the winning offer, the "title" for the domain name and the Admin rights for the forum and Facebook groups would still have to be transferred to a single person. What say do all these people that chipped into the fund have? People will chip in different amounts, someone sending in $10 may feel they have as much say in how things are run as someone that gave $50. Ownership by such a large committee is just bound to be a huge headache. All the indians may want to be chiefs. IF the average contribution was $50, that's 40 people needed just to hit $2,000 - that's a migraine not a headache! A very small group would (probably) work if they have the same goals. Best possible outcome, in my opinion, is a single buyer or very small group - with the desire to keep the forum intact. I couldn't care less what the buyer does with the RTH home page or the Facebook groups. Aside - I spent some time looking at the Facebook groups and it's a selling free for all over there. Headache #2 I would be willing to chip in to a group buy, but I agree with Bob that it could and probably would end up in arguments. All I care about is this forum too. The rest of it doesn't matter to me. If I could be guaranteed that this forum would be run exactly as it is now, I'd be glad to pitch in my money and leave control to someone else. The problem is that it's hard to guarantee something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 10:28:20 GMT -5
No Scott he is not running a suction ftom what I read on his post. He is accepting private offers until the deadline then he can decide to whom and if he wants to sell it. I think that's a good business move. Keeps his personal info confidential. And goes to the highest offer. Auction style!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 10:30:43 GMT -5
5 people and they might have to think about it, but it probably wouldn't hurt too much. 10 just made it a bunch easier. 25 people and many here may spend the equivalent of their share on fancy coffee every month. A set price would be nice, but I'm thinking this is more like a silent auction. Back to my quip about having an HOA. I think even you later in this thread discuss the near impossibility of agreement all of the time with a committee purchase. It's not a lot of money guys. One person can buy it.
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Post by captbob on Jan 24, 2017 10:35:39 GMT -5
I tried. Offer not rejected, but I backed out when told it would be 4 to 5 weeks before a decision was made. And goes to the highest offer. Auction style! Actually, we would never know that. If X is the highest offer and Y is lower but close, Mark could choose to sell to Y if he considered Y may offer a better future to the legacy of his forum. Down here we call it fishing. Can't blame him for wanting to give it some time to see what offers may roll in. His call.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 10:50:43 GMT -5
I tried. Offer not rejected, but I backed out when told it would be 4 to 5 weeks before a decision was made. And goes to the highest offer. Auction style! Actually, we would never know that. If X is the highest offer and Y is lower but close, Mark could choose to sell to Y if he considered Y may offer a better future to the legacy of his forum. Down here we call it fishing. Can't blame him for wanting to give it some time to see what offers may roll in. His call. Actually you would probably be a good buyer. Maybe you will check back in in 4-5 weeks?? 'Fishing' is not good business. I won't participate in fishing deals. As apparently you won't either. The other one I run into is "or best offer" and when you make a low (but highest) offer when nobody else has made any, then seller doesn't accept. Hate that.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2017 11:08:49 GMT -5
Lets start a fund and get people to chip into it, see how much money we have by Feb 23rd, make an offer. Easy peasey lemon squeezy. Tony Aside from all the negative angles that captbob brought up, I think it's a good idea. So long as one person, maybe you Tony, agrees to be the man handling the transaction and home page. As everyone has said, it is the forum that matters to us. I think there is no harm in making pledges to purchase RTH. Maybe it would be better to start a drive closer to Mark's deadline, so that people would be sure to have the funds available. I propose that each person's contribution amount to no more than a permanent member status and maybe voting rights for any new moderators, should they be needed. This doesn't have to complicated. I'm sure some issues may come up, but they will probably be handleable (if that's even a word). It can do no harm to start a fundraiser. If the offer is rejected, then so be it, but at least we tried. I was gonna post my pledge now, but I think pledges should be PM'ed to Tony- therefore I am sending him a PM. Private pledges- so no one feels bad about being able to only afford or care to send a small amount. But, I think a minimum should be 25.00.
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Post by captbob on Jan 24, 2017 11:17:47 GMT -5
Sucks to be Tony's inbox *snickering* So basically, this would amount to a funding drive to pay for someone else to buy what is being offered. I don't even know ... never mind
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 24, 2017 11:20:45 GMT -5
Sucks to be Tony's inbox *snickering* So basically, this would amount to a funding drive to pay for someone else to buy what is being offered. I don't even know ... never mind You do have some valid points and I agree that there could be bumps, but the alternative is to do nothing. I think if Tony wants to take it on, then let him. I think he has perfectly good standing to be trusted with this.
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Post by captbob on Jan 24, 2017 11:21:34 GMT -5
Thank you Scott. I left my hat in the ring, just couldn't leave an open offer like that up in the air. I'm too obsessive when presented with a new project and was spending way too much time working on all the aspects of this for it to not come to fruition. I'll sit back and watch for now.
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Post by roy on Jan 24, 2017 11:27:55 GMT -5
The RTH sure seems like a fine platform for a respected known dealer in lapidary related items. Such respected known dealer could jump and buy it as a hero and curtail all insecurities. Get front and center on his advertising and have the respect and allowance of a lot of members. And if any one complains about his advertising they will get tar and feathered. Perhaps we could change the borders from blue to this scheme: ETA: Even change our avatars to above image...even add R&B to said image. funny james! but no the Rth has never been a place were i planned to sell it like the log cabin in the woods you know no cell service or internet just a place to kick back and enjoy
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 24, 2017 11:28:53 GMT -5
No Scott he is not running a suction ftom what I read on his post. He is accepting private offers until the deadline then he can decide to whom and if he wants to sell it. I think that's a good business move. Keeps his personal info confidential. Interesting auto correct - SUCTION instead of auction, lol. Jean
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