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Post by adam on Apr 29, 2018 11:42:16 GMT -5
Here's the story: www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/richard-branson-wants-ridiculously-exciting-hyperloop-up-and-running-within-3-years/ar-AAwuWS1?ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz Imagine underground tunnels in cities and between cities. Now imagine pods going at ridiculously fast paces, carrying us and everything that needs to be transported on a daily basis. This is the future. I'm sure of it. Forget flying cars, for now. This idea sure beats those instances of hours' long traffic, and the time to drive. Thoughts? This could be dangerous? Prolly very dangerous. So there must be many systems in place to keep this budding industry safe while people are in pods traveling faster than an airliner. What other technologies would you guys like to see in the next 20 years? A walking home assistant that talks back to you and knows what to say? Definitely.
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doublet83
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Post by doublet83 on Apr 30, 2018 9:32:41 GMT -5
People probably underestimate the infrastructure costs and regulatory constraints to make this happen.
The high speed rail in CA costs $100 million / mile, the highest cost in the world, for the slowest high speed rail in the world. This is thanks in part to all the regulatory hurdles, labor costs, and difficulty in obtaining land for construction.
Hyperloop is even more demanding when it comes to infrastructure and land requirements, because of the speeds involved, the hyperloop can only turn at very slight angles without putting excessive G forces on the traveler. As a result, you need a ton of land all in an almost straight line for hyperloop construction. Therefore I imagine construction of hyperloops in densely populated areas becomes a virtual impossibility.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 11:57:23 GMT -5
It is supposed to be underground for a significant part of the routes: which I think explains why Elon Musk is putting his money into the tunneling technology rather than the transport side. Short of major depopulation, real estate costs make ground-level construction of anything increasingly prohibitive.
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Post by Rockoonz on Apr 30, 2018 19:25:18 GMT -5
Ever notice how hyped up any new form of transport is when it will result in less free, unmonitored travel? here in the NW government has a term they call "road diet", which is a program to make driving as difficult as possible, with the expressed goal to eliminate personal transportation that doesn't look like a bicycle and cram us all into mass transportation. Elites like Musk and the oligarchy of course get to keep their freedom of movement.
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Post by Pat on Apr 30, 2018 19:31:07 GMT -5
Road diets around here are popular with bicycle riders. They have a lot more room. Feel safer.
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Post by Rockoonz on Apr 30, 2018 19:59:47 GMT -5
Road diets around here are popular with bicycle riders. They have a lot more room. Feel safer. I totally get that. Free infrastructure paid for by the people who already paid for the infrastructure that is being taken from them. What's not to like.
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Post by NRG on Apr 30, 2018 20:41:53 GMT -5
Road diets around here are popular with bicycle riders. They have a lot more room. Feel safer. I totally get that. Free infrastructure paid for by the people who already paid for the infrastructure that is being taken from them. What's not to like. Road diet is the mantra down here too. I had never even thought of freedom of movement and subsequent control abuses. Thanks.
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Post by doublet83 on May 4, 2018 13:32:59 GMT -5
Didn't realize they actually hope to build parts of this thing underground. But with New York City subway costing from $500 to million to $2.6 Billion per mile (!) that doesn't seem to solve the cost issue very much.
High speed rail technology has been around for decades. Yet we still see very little of it being built in this country. I used to commute to NYC on the NJ transit. It is frankly embarrassing how slow, old, and frequently delayed the trains going to the "financial capital of the world" are.
Dreaming about hyperloops in the next several decades, as much as I would like to see it, will probably remain a dream in this country, where the barriers to any large infrastructure projects are frequently prohibitively high.
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