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Post by 1dave on Feb 25, 2024 15:17:11 GMT -5
I went to see a therapist several weeks ago and he asked me if I had ever had Gout? NO! I Said. Is that True? I became curious, went on to Amazon and bought I've been taking it for a week now and can stand up much easier now!
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Post by ThomasT on Feb 25, 2024 15:37:31 GMT -5
I know the feeling... meloxicam helps a good bit for arthritis.
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Post by vegasjames on Feb 25, 2024 22:38:44 GMT -5
What joints are hurting? Is there any swelling or deformity? Are the joints warmer than normal?
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Post by HankRocks on Feb 26, 2024 7:44:52 GMT -5
I take Meloxicam 15mg prescribed by my PCP but am limiting myself to 1 tablet every 5 days which will hopefully that will extend it's effectiveness. By the 4th day I can feel the pain creeping back in.
Interesting thing is that this morning is day 5 and I am due to take 1 pill this morning, however I feel no real pain. That is odd considering that I just finished the Show this weekend with all of the moving of show material. Maybe I am still tired from the long days and lack of sleep to feel everything!! I will see how I feel after I unload the truck this morning and finish changing stages on 3 model B tumblers and cleanup on the latest Vib Lap batch polished pieces and starting a new batch.
You may want to check into the use of Uric acid and Kidney stones as there may be some relationship.
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Post by realrockhound on Feb 26, 2024 11:29:36 GMT -5
Get a good liquid collagen
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Post by drocknut on Feb 26, 2024 12:33:03 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that gout occurred in the feet but I've never looking into it. Interested to hear if the supplement helps.
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Post by drocknut on Feb 26, 2024 12:33:41 GMT -5
Get a good liquid collagen And what constitutes a "good" liquid collagen?
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Post by RickB on Feb 26, 2024 12:50:44 GMT -5
Not a liquid, but this is the collagen that I take daily.
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Post by vegasjames on Feb 26, 2024 17:06:59 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that gout occurred in the feet but I've never looking into it. Interested to hear if the supplement helps. Gout most often occurs in the toe joints, but can also occur elsewhere in the body.
It can also be difficult to properly diagnose as some other conditions can mimic gout and lab tests such as CRP and SED rates are not specific to the condition.
Gout will normally resolve itself within a couple of weeks without treatment, but if actually gout it is a good idea to look for the cause as this can be a symptom of other more serious conditions. Contrary to popular belief, gout is not always a dietary issue.
Many things increase the risk including kidney disease, heart attack, hypothyroidism, cancers, medications, caffeine, aspirin, congestive heart failure, insulin resistance or diabetes, psoriasis, dehydration or the use of diuretics, poor adrenal function, etc.
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Post by realrockhound on Feb 26, 2024 20:44:24 GMT -5
Get a good liquid collagen And what constitutes a "good" liquid collagen? Something that isn’t a cheap, under dosed supplement that’s sourced from low grade sources full of fillers to cut costs. Like the majority of supplements on the market. I worked in the supplement industry for 3-4 years. It’s pretty common. Especially with protein supplements, etc.. which is essentially what collagen is, amino acids. Look for ingredients that aren’t in proprietary blend but lists the exact amounts you’re getting per serving. Ones that are hydrolyzed are even better. Wish i remember the one I took back in my 20’s. Swore by it. Did wonders for my joints when I was lifting heavy and greatly reduced irritation/aching in my elbows.
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Post by MsAli on Feb 26, 2024 21:49:38 GMT -5
Or you can eat bone marrow a couple times a week. Personally it grosses me out, but it's natural and a couple patients swear it helps with joint pain
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Post by realrockhound on Feb 26, 2024 22:30:09 GMT -5
Or you can eat bone marrow a couple times a week. Personally it grosses me out, but it's natural and a couple patients swear it helps with joint pain Yep, or that. Get it from your nutritional intake.
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Post by drocknut on Feb 27, 2024 15:30:17 GMT -5
Or you can eat bone marrow a couple times a week. Personally it grosses me out, but it's natural and a couple patients swear it helps with joint pain That grosses me out too.
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Post by 1dave on Feb 27, 2024 21:38:44 GMT -5
Gout used to be a common problem, Why shouldn't we still have it? I took the cure and it helped.
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 27, 2024 22:38:06 GMT -5
I had such severe osteoarthritis in my thumbs about 10 years ago that I had to switch to hand drums because I couldn't hold drum sticks. Started adding straight gelatin powder to my morning coffee concoction and it cleared up within a few weeks. I still have full use, have to use my hands for hours of heavy work to get them to hurt.
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Post by vegasjames on Feb 27, 2024 23:57:49 GMT -5
I had such severe osteoarthritis in my thumbs about 10 years ago that I had to switch to hand drums because I couldn't hold drum sticks. Started adding straight gelatin powder to my morning coffee concoction and it cleared up within a few weeks. I still have full use, have to use my hands for hours of heavy work to get them to hurt. The gelatin provides the amino acids needed for collagen formation (proline, lysine and glycine). Collagen is one of the structural proteins of cartilage.
More essential are silica and vitamin C, which are also needed for the formation of structural proteins, and glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) and the most common deficiencies linked to many diseases and conditions including osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, emphysema, atherosclerosis, diverticulitis, etc.
Silica, which is absorbed by the body as orthosilcic acid (OA), is essential for the formation of collagen, elastin, and chondroitin, also for mineralization of bone and proper nervous system function. Silica levels decline with age though as silica is poorly absorbed to begin with, and it cannot be absorbed without being converted in to OA. The conversion of silica in to OA is enhanced by the presence of stomach acid, which naturally declines with age due to decreasing methylation.
Antacids, proton pump inhibitors ("acid blockers"), high pH waters, calcium carbonate and magnesium oxide/hydroxide all make things worse by decreasing stomach acid further needed not only for the breakdown of proteins, but also for silica absorption and the absorption of B6, B12 and folate needed for the formation of the body's methyl donor SAMe. Since methylation is also required for the formation of stomach acid, reduction of stomach acid can lead to a downward spiral.
Methylation is also essential fro the formation of cartilage, and therefore declining methylation also contributes to osteoarthritis.
Silica is responsible for the actual mineralization of the collagen matrix of bones through the piezoelectric effect of the silica in the matrix.
Silica is not only needed for collagen formation, which is also one of the structural proteins of cartilage, but also links glucosamine molecules together to form a glycosaminoglycan (GAG) known as chondroitin needed for cartilage formation.
Vitamin C is needed for the formation of structural proteins collagen and elastin, and is essential for proper adrenal gland function that produces the body's natural anti-inflammatory corticosteroids. Keep in mind that osteoarthritis is joint inflammation.
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Post by 1dave on Feb 28, 2024 7:16:31 GMT -5
Thanks James!
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