pantagruel
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Post by pantagruel on Mar 24, 2024 21:23:13 GMT -5
I'm currently reading through Herbst's "Amateur Gemstone Faceting", and it's great. I've found a 2nd edition of Vargas' "Faceting for Amateurs"for $40, which is wildly low. For anyone familiar with the Vargas editions, do you know what the main differences are between earlier editions and the fourth/final/2003 edition?
Or, if someone has the 4th ed, would you mind sharing the "intro to the 4th edition" with me if it's not terribly long?
I'm immunocompromised, so I can't learn at a lapidary club, take an intensive, or go to gem shows. I might consider online classes at some point if I'm struggling with something. Because of that, reading as many instruction books as I can is the best I can do getting interaction with many excellent faceters.
Thank you!
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Post by 1dave on Mar 25, 2024 9:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by pantagruel on Mar 25, 2024 9:43:55 GMT -5
thanks, though I'm not sure what you're pointing out. The thread linked above doesn't mention the Vargas book, and in the entire section there's only one other post that mentions multiple editions of "Faceting for Amateurs" I'm looking for information about the differences between editions of "Faceting for Amateurs" and/or the preface to the 4th edition.
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Post by 1dave on Mar 25, 2024 9:50:31 GMT -5
Sorry, that is the best information I have about faceting.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 25, 2024 10:04:52 GMT -5
I have the 2nd and 3rd Editions, but not the 4th.
I would just stick with Tom's book if I were you. While the Vargas' book was a trailblazer back in the day, meetpoint faceting had not yet been developed. I believe it was Robert Long and Norm Steele who started that revolution in faceting with their development of the Datavue and raytracing computer programs. They published Introduction to Meetpoint Faceting in 1985.
Tom's books are current, complete and pretty entertaining to boot.
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Post by pantagruel on Mar 25, 2024 10:09:23 GMT -5
I have the 2nd and 3rd Editions, but not the 4th. I would just stick with Tom's book if I were you. ... Tom's books are current, complete and pretty entertaining to boot. yes, they are entertaining! thank you, I appreciate your analysis. have you interacted with their "diagrams for faceting" volumes? and/or are those diagrams already added to one of the online database? eg, www.facetdiagrams.org/ ?
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 25, 2024 11:04:04 GMT -5
I have Books 1-7 and the Introduction to Meetpoint Faceting (in binder form) that I bought years ago. I never actually used them for any faceting. Jeff Graham's designs intrigued me more and by then you could pretty much get any design you wanted online. I haven't faceted in years now because when I moved to Arizona in 2009 (from the Chicago area, btw) the movers did a number of on my faceting machine and I never had it fixed (too much $$$).
Anyway, if you would like the Long and Steele binders, I'd be happy to send them to you. Just pay the postage.
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Post by pantagruel on Mar 25, 2024 11:11:20 GMT -5
I have Books 1-7 and the Introduction to Meetpoint Faceting (in binder form) that I bought years ago. I never actually used them for any faceting. Jeff Graham's designs intrigued me more and by then you could pretty much get any design you wanted online. I haven't faceted in years now because when I moved to Arizona in 2009 (from the Chicago area, btw) the movers did a number of on my faceting machine and I never had it fixed (too much $$$). Anyway, if you would like the Long and Steele binders, I'd be happy to send them to you. Just pay the postage. 1. that's TERRIBLE!! when I moved from Philadelphia to Chicago several years ago, the movers stole all of my day-to-day jewelry (which also had all my winter socks 😂😩) and a bunch more. 2. re: Long and Steele binders, that would be absolutely lovely! If happily pay postage for them!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 25, 2024 19:40:19 GMT -5
PM me your address and I'll send them to you. I really don't have a use for them and they'd be happier with someone who does.
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Post by 1dave on Mar 25, 2024 20:05:38 GMT -5
Glad it worked out!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 25, 2024 20:33:27 GMT -5
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