Woried about AI taking over the world?

[titaniumkid]

A bit of a sad article. AI was used to effectively steal content and replace the freelancer writers it stole from.

www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-08-08/csiro-cosmos-magazine-generating-articles-using-ai/104186330

We were once worried robots would steal menial jobs from us. Instead, it's the creative industries that are under threat, thanks to greed and entitlement.

[realrockhound]

I use it to do my work 😂. Using it right now as I write this while I determine chemical dosing/feed rates lol

[chris1956]

Aug 14, 2024 15:14:45 GMT -5 realrockhound said:

I use it to do my work 😂. Using it right now as I write this while I determine chemical dosing/feed rates lol

OMG!  What has become of engineering?  Hope I am not drinking that water.  

I am getting too old.  I remember the first time a yound engineer told me they had looked something up on Wikapedia.  I am sure my eyeballs rolled completely around several times before they stopped.  

[realrockhound]

Aug 14, 2024 18:16:22 GMT -5 chris1956 said:

Aug 14, 2024 15:14:45 GMT -5 realrockhound said:

I use it to do my work 😂. Using it right now as I write this while I determine chemical dosing/feed rates lol

OMG!  What has become of engineering?  Hope I am not drinking that water.  

I am getting too old.  I remember the first time a yound engineer told me they had looked something up on Wikapedia.  I am sure my eyeballs rolled completely around several times before they stopped.  

First rule in using other sources. Verify the work.

[titaniumkid]

AI is a useful tool and it's used more often than people realise in everyday things. That's fine. No probs. Whatevs, mate.

The main problems with it (and this could be applied to everything, really) are how (data theft) and why it is used.

In the article I posted, the "lovely folks" at that science magazine would rather save dollars by using AI than paying actual writers to write their articles, and to add insult to injury, AI used the previous work of the science writers to make the articles without permission. That's an example of greed.

Here's another example of greed. I freelance edit science manuscripts for a company and academic publishers. I now spend time editing papers that were already edited by AI. The company has the gall to ask me for feedback on how the AI went with editing so they can improve it. They dress it up as though they are trying to help the freelance editors improve their editing efficiency by improving the AI, but the reality is they want to make the AI so good they no longer need human editors. We are expected to give feedback and improve the AI that will eventually take our jobs. Lovely.

And then there's the entitlement. Thanks to AI, people can now create things like digital art without developing the skills to do the art. They feel entitled to be an artist without putting in the effort to be an artist. I'm not talking about people using AI for fun and laughs. There are people pressing a button to make a pic then claiming they are an artist, that is their created work, and then they put a price on it. I've seen this in the publishing industry with book cover art. Actual talented artists who have spent years learning the skills to be excellent at their work are losing jobs in favour of people using AI but not being upfront about it.

Entitlement. I grew up with it. I was sold the lie that I can be whatever I want. But it's changed from "you can be whatever you want if you work hard enough at it" (which is bad enough) to "you can be whatever you want and the world owes you and if people aren't letting you be that thing, they are evil bigots". Reality check. If all you're doing is sticking a few descriptors into a generator, you are not an artist. You are not a writer. You are not a content creator. You're not entitled to call yourself any of these because you do not have the actual skills required to do these things. You want to be an artist? Put in the effort, learn the skills, get less bad at it. Do the work.

I feel pretty strongly about this. I see very talented people losing their jobs because greedy corps and entitled brats are being dishonest with AI.

[lordsorril]

Standalone AI in its current form is weak, it has no sentience or true comprehension.  It uses mathematical algorithms derived from provided data to make predictions, but, it has no understanding of context.

The true benefit of AI is that it is a useful tool for accelerating predictable tasks within an existing framework of parameters.

Below on the left is an AI generated image, and on the right is a Digital image *I made* using AI (you can see the difference). 

[wargrafix]

Ai has its place, but I don't really fear for art since people love a physical aspect to art. Even one created in digital painting. Only difference is no physical canvas. But I can throw down on canvas if I re-practice.


Todd McFarlane of spawn uses a cintiqu tablet but bet your bottom dollar you give him page and pen and he will make it sing.



There is something we love knowing it came from someone from their mind. This forum is proof. We have a love of physical media. Its tactile and connects us. The "real" is not just an abstract concept.