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Post by tribeunited on Jul 3, 2024 21:07:04 GMT -5
I don't even have a sort of guess on this one. At first I thought the purple was some old marker but it isn't. Anyone? Bueller? ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720058819/y025EGCcRYq1_C6j7kcHEw_vvedd0.jpg)
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jul 3, 2024 21:28:39 GMT -5
I don't even have a sort of guess on this one. At first I thought the purple was some old marker but it isn't. Anyone? Bueller? ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720058819/y025EGCcRYq1_C6j7kcHEw_vvedd0.jpg) You should send it to me so I can take a closer look
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 3, 2024 21:46:06 GMT -5
Wow! Not even a clue, really, but pretty spectacular.
I had an agate that was, I think moss, that was brecciated which has that look. A knowledgeable old timer here called it "fragmented" Maybe that's what yours is? Different colors, yet, the type looks the same.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 3, 2024 21:51:03 GMT -5
And then there is this. Pardon the bit of photoshopping- this came from the ebay ad. The real color is really great- it didn't need any help! He had no clue what it is. It's completely a one off. I just got lucky. But, you see it also fragmented.
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Post by cabby on Jul 3, 2024 22:10:48 GMT -5
Wow! Not even a clue, really, but pretty spectacular.
I had an agate that was, I think moss, that was brecciated which has that look. A knowledgeable old timer here called it "fragmented" Maybe that's what yours is? Different colors, yet, the type looks the same.
It looks like it might be a fragmented membrane agate. Breaks up early than brecciated ones do, so just end up with membrane fragments instead of lots of layers in chunks. The fragments scatter through the chalcedony but stay in the nodule.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 3, 2024 22:12:42 GMT -5
Wow! Not even a clue, really, but pretty spectacular.
I had an agate that was, I think moss, that was brecciated which has that look. A knowledgeable old timer here called it "fragmented" Maybe that's what yours is? Different colors, yet, the type looks the same.
It looks like it might be a fragmented membrane agate. Breaks up early than brecciated ones do, so just end up with membrane fragments instead of lots of layers in chunks. The fragments scatter through the chalcedony but stay in the nodule. Yup. That's pretty much what I was told.
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Post by cabby on Jul 3, 2024 22:20:36 GMT -5
I’m clueless about most agates, but all pics I’ve seen of fragmented membrane lakers have kinda an outline around the fragments. Not sure if other types of agates would as well. Looks like the matrix is brecciated but the “seam” looks wonky but not quite brecciated looking, to me.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 3, 2024 22:29:56 GMT -5
I think the filaments look "brecciated", for lack of a better word.
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Post by cabby on Jul 3, 2024 22:40:55 GMT -5
I think the filaments look "brecciated", for lack of a better word. Sorry, was just brainstorming! The fragments do appear to be free floating, but from a different event. Trying to envision how something like this can be formed to figure out what search terms to use. To noobie me it looks like the original matrix was broken up, formed a new rock, developed a rift that filled with something, then that something got broken up and suspended in a new soupy mix. If the events for the matrix and seam happened at the same time they would be mixed together, but they aren’t?
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 3, 2024 22:45:04 GMT -5
I really don't even know. Maybe 1dave would know. Hey, Dave, how do you suppose those rocks were formed?
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Post by tribeunited on Jul 4, 2024 14:52:48 GMT -5
rockjunquie and cabby - thanks! Fragmented plasma fantasia. Got it. Son Of Beach - I can do that. PM me your address and I'll send it, no joke.
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Post by realrockhound on Jul 4, 2024 15:28:22 GMT -5
I know that material. I’ve personally seen it. Names evading me
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Post by tribeunited on Jul 4, 2024 16:05:10 GMT -5
names evading me too....it's illegible. ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720127103/gZQEwAPLR1WAWtZ9QW6VZQ_ijpher.jpg)
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Post by 1dave on Jul 4, 2024 19:34:15 GMT -5
I really don't even know. Maybe 1dave would know. Hey, Dave, how do you suppose those rocks were formed? My Guess is that a fracture opened, Iron and Quartz gel filled the opening, it later broke apart and gel without iron filled with debris refilled the opening, perhaps after several powerful earthquakes. The wedge just above the bottom red is interesting, as are the yellow limonite dendrites at the very bottom! ![1](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720058819/y025EGCcRYq1_C6j7kcHEw_vvedd0.jpg)
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jul 4, 2024 19:48:18 GMT -5
names evading me too....it's illegible. ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720127103/gZQEwAPLR1WAWtZ9QW6VZQ_ijpher.jpg) It's called Leaverite ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52705724763_d57fe2c624_z.jpg)
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Post by tribeunited on Jul 4, 2024 20:37:05 GMT -5
thank you 1dave - that was super informative! I even learned a new term - limonite Son Of Beach - You're not supposed to bring those home!!!
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Post by realrockhound on Jul 4, 2024 23:33:23 GMT -5
names evading me too....it's illegible. ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/dosm6sdda/image/upload/v1720127103/gZQEwAPLR1WAWtZ9QW6VZQ_ijpher.jpg) It's called Leaverite ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52705724763_d57fe2c624_z.jpg) Could be cacalite
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Post by cabby on Jul 5, 2024 6:34:01 GMT -5
1dave just out of curiosity, do you know of other materials with similar events? Theoretically I knew it could happen, but I’ve never seen something like that. There must be a lot of nifty material wherever this came from! Looking into similar material might help track down the region, at least.
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Post by tribeunited on Jul 5, 2024 13:22:12 GMT -5
realrockhound - cacalite - is that the same as coprolite, or a distant cousin?
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Post by realrockhound on Jul 5, 2024 13:29:28 GMT -5
realrockhound - cacalite - is that the same as coprolite, or a distant cousin? Same but not. Coprolite came from the Dino’s etc.. Cacalite comes from the Neanderthals. That purple you’re seeing in there is poop stained by berries. The lil wiggly looking things are the parasites. Based on my observations. That Neanderthals diet consisted of blueberries and raccoon meat. The raccoon in his diet would explain the parasites.
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