WyckedWyre
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Post by WyckedWyre on Aug 5, 2007 13:49:34 GMT -5
Every now and then I discover after cleaning my finds that I've picked up a knapped piece. Here's my artifact collection, mostly scrapers and broken pieces. The gold and red jasper point was found at Woodward Ranch. Shhhhhhh. Don't tell... And some beautiful modern points from Travis @ Sparrow Creek... Jasper Gold Sheen Obsidian Montana Agate And it was difficult to talk him into selling this point... Picture Jasper ;)S
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luv2hound
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I try & I try, but dang it! Those rocks just keep ending up in my pockets
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Post by luv2hound on Aug 5, 2007 13:53:21 GMT -5
You've got a really nice collection. The modern points are really quite beautiful.
~~Mitzi~~
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SteveHolmes
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Post by SteveHolmes on Aug 5, 2007 15:22:16 GMT -5
very nice Susan, It's pretty neat when you find some artifacts on your own, but those modern points are beauts! and Travis does a fine job. I wonder how much of his stone he heat treats before it becomes knappable>...gorgeous stuff and what a talent! Steve
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darrad
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Post by darrad on Aug 5, 2007 16:49:43 GMT -5
Some nice tools there and the modern points are great work. Wonderful collection.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Aug 5, 2007 18:04:20 GMT -5
Boy what I wouldn't give to be able to knap like that. That picture jasper point is amazing!....Mel
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Post by Lady B on Aug 5, 2007 18:25:02 GMT -5
Beautiful collections--both of them!
Thanks for sharing.
Lady B
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Post by BuiltonRock on Aug 5, 2007 20:20:39 GMT -5
Cool! thanks. I have found a few points here in Missouri but never a whole one! john
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Post by texaswoodie on Aug 5, 2007 20:44:26 GMT -5
Man, those points are some fine craftsmanship! And beautiful material as well.
Curt
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Post by MrP on Aug 5, 2007 20:48:30 GMT -5
Those are neat......MrP
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Post by joe on Aug 5, 2007 23:44:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't know how to recognize that the ones in the first pic are even points. How do you tell? The rest of the points are incredible!
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Aug 6, 2007 2:31:10 GMT -5
Joe, she didn't say they were points, she said mostly scrapers and broken pieces. I'm perplexed too though -- there's only one piece that I would even stop to wonder if it was worked by human hands (the orange agate arrowhead-thing on the very far left). Susan, how DO you tell? ?.... Am I ingoring cool stuff, without even being aware that I'm ignoring it? Magnificent collection of modern points. Did anyone ever get one of James' points before he disappeared? He made some good ones. -Don
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Post by flintfish on Aug 6, 2007 6:06:49 GMT -5
Hi folks,
It's often really difficult to tell worked from natural fractures on artifacts. I live in an area rich in natural flint, and covered in worked flint, from ancient to modern. So how to tell... close examination of the percussion scars will show ripple rings, and a bulbous mark close to the stone edge. This is far more apparent in fine grained stone, and may be unitentifiable on coarser material. The bulb of percussion is the tell tale sign of some knapping work. Most natural weathering (frost etc...) leaves either crazy paving web fractures or scooped "pock" mark fractures, and so looks different to worked surfaces.
Really it comes down to having an "eye" for likely pieces, I had already been "flinting" for 15 years when I went to study Archaeology, walking across sites, I found hundreds of worked flints, and missed the hundreds of ceramics - I just didn't see them. And my buddies couldn't find flints even when they were standing on them, they were a bunch of pottery fans though! It's a vast subject, but the best way to learn is to smash a few rocks, grab some flint and smack it enough and you learn to see what happens, what you produce and what you leave as waste. Then you'll have an easier time seeing the worked surfaces.
Best of luck folks!
Harry
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dtcmor
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Post by dtcmor on Aug 7, 2007 1:05:24 GMT -5
Very nice collections - both of them. I find a piece or two here and there when I gather my local flint and chert, but none as defined as yours. I really like those modern points - some very fine craftsmanship indeed! It shows that I have a very long way to go trying to learn this craft, especially to achieve that kind of perfect and symmetrical look! Thanks for sharing!
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WyckedWyre
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Post by WyckedWyre on Aug 7, 2007 19:45:17 GMT -5
It's impossible to see the flakes and the pressure points on the old tools from the photo. If you saw them in person you'd be able to see that they have been worked. As I said, most are broken pieces...the closest thing I have found to an actual arrowhead is the jasper piece from Woodward Ranch. I have discovered many pottery shards over the years but I leave them where I find them. The 2 small shards in my collection were gifted to me by a friend who is not quite as ethical as I... I love modern flintknapping and will learn to do it someday. Travis is an artist. www.sparrowcreek.com:-/S
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Aug 7, 2007 20:00:24 GMT -5
Wow Susan. Great site! Those points are really works of art and I really enjoyed his review of the different stones etc.....Mel
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