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Aug 20, 2007 19:11:10 GMT -5
Post by Jurrasic Jonje on Aug 20, 2007 19:11:10 GMT -5
I am posting this here cause I really need some input. This is my first attempt at wire sculpting. I am really thinking about tearing it apart. I am looking for honest opinions please. Thanks
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firewalker45
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Aug 20, 2007 19:53:00 GMT -5
Post by firewalker45 on Aug 20, 2007 19:53:00 GMT -5
It shows promice . What did your first attempt at wirewrapping look like? And look at you now.
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Aug 20, 2007 19:58:51 GMT -5
Post by Jurrasic Jonje on Aug 20, 2007 19:58:51 GMT -5
textiger sent me a PM and I agree with what he said. This wrap is just too busy for this stone.
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Aug 20, 2007 21:17:02 GMT -5
Post by Lady B on Aug 20, 2007 21:17:02 GMT -5
Okay--you have asked for honesty...the wire on the right side of the photo overwhelms the pendant and gives it the appearance of being some type of strange pitcher. If I cover up that one offset strand, the piece has much more balance and flow. For that size of offset I think you ether need a larger cab or a cab that has enough power within itself that the surrounding wire does not steal the eye away from it.
That's my honest assessment. I love the artistry of your work but this piece isn't quite there yet.
Lady B
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Aug 20, 2007 21:34:18 GMT -5
Post by akansan on Aug 20, 2007 21:34:18 GMT -5
Hmmm...
I'd agree the wire overwhelms the cab in this one, but I wouldn't give up on the idea of a sculpture with this stone. I just think more of the sculpture needs to be more behind the stone instead of over the stone...does that make sense? Is that silver wire? You might see if gold (or silver depending on which that one is) makes it pop a bit more...
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Aug 20, 2007 21:44:56 GMT -5
Post by docone31 on Aug 20, 2007 21:44:56 GMT -5
If wire sculpting was all that easy, it wouldn't be valued as art. The bail is a little small. I make my bails large enough to fit up to a 12mm curb chain. The rest of the wrapping, it is a good start. The whole sculpting issue shows both weaknesses and strengths. You do have both in the stone. The wire does overpower the stone. I would have used .025 sterling rather than .032. Sometimes that makes all the difference. Another trick I have learned, odd wires rather than even wires make the piece. Use three, or five rather than four. With tension bends on the stone, make them visible and part of the design. Also, hone those tools! Sharp tools leave no marks. All in all, it is not that bad a job. It is not artsy-crapsy, the wires function with the stone. It is very hard to sculpt on a non calibrated stone. I definately would not take it apart. Do another one useing what you have learned. Make a larger bail. I use the swirl to conceal the intersection at the bail as that is one of the weaknesses I constantly face. Considering the stone shape, I definately have seen a lot that were definately worse. The sculpting will tighten and add to the design as you have more under your belt. When I first started doing sculpting, my first one was much worse than yours seems to be to you. I mean the sculpting part on mine really sucked. It sold however. Even today, 20yrs later, sculpting is not my strong point. I am more of a functional type wrap. Prongs, boundary wraps, with some sculpting added to it. What the tapes do not show, a lot of the flowing sculpting is done over shapes. As you probably noticed, one mere hesitation on a sculpt and it shows from a mile away. Everything becomes a mandrel. I use a baseball bat, #2 Phillips head screw driver, synclastic curve mandrel, etc. You got a good start there. Next one will be a little more to your liking, next one a little better, soon they will get boring. Remember, sharp tools leave no marks. Mandrels can be found anywhere, keep moving forward.
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Aug 20, 2007 22:00:55 GMT -5
Post by Jurrasic Jonje on Aug 20, 2007 22:00:55 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input. I believe I will try to incorporate some sculpting into my style wraps. I enjoy wrapping and I want to be able to do more than just one style. This was definetly a learning experience.
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Aug 21, 2007 2:19:31 GMT -5
Post by rocklicker on Aug 21, 2007 2:19:31 GMT -5
Yup, I gotta agree. It's to bust for the stone. If you didn't have the two wraps near the bottom that hold the stone in it would look right on. (I know, but then the stone wouldn't stay put) BTW, what is wire sculpting anyway? Isn't that basically wire wrapping? Pardon my ignorance. Oh and NICE STONE!!!! Steve
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Aug 21, 2007 9:59:28 GMT -5
Post by stefan on Aug 21, 2007 9:59:28 GMT -5
OK Busy Busy Busy!!! The wrap is nice- but a little lopsided (which would work better in a more lopsided cab- the cab is to even for the wrap is what I'm trying to say) Also the right side arm pulls the eye away from the stone too much- it needs to swing in tighter to the stone- to keep the eye focused on the stone- Try to think of the wrap in one of 2 ways- to compliment and focus the stone (either its shape or design) or to highlight a particular aspect of the stone (i.e: loops to call attention to an eye agate). All in all it is very well done- and a great starting point! Man I wish I had Half your talent!
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Aug 21, 2007 11:26:58 GMT -5
Post by Tonyterner on Aug 21, 2007 11:26:58 GMT -5
You are obviously very talented. I love that stone, saw a bunch of cags made from it this past weekend at a show. I know nothing about wire wrapping but I agree with some others here that it seems too busy. Stone and wrap are competing for my attention. Docone mentioned using an odd number, this is a very common practice in landscaping. They say odd numbers look natural and even numbers man made.
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Aug 21, 2007 15:27:27 GMT -5
Post by Jurrasic Jonje on Aug 21, 2007 15:27:27 GMT -5
Tony I got this cab at the show in Lebanon. I am gonna post pics of all the cabs later today.
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Aug 22, 2007 9:52:54 GMT -5
Post by Tonyterner on Aug 22, 2007 9:52:54 GMT -5
Ahhh. My wife and I drooled over that stuff at the show. I may have to buy a slab sooner or later just to look at. Good to see you made it there.
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