Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Nov 29, 2007 12:05:28 GMT -5
The guy I bought these from told me they were found in a particular stream in West Virginia. I personally find it hard to believe. He obviously did not divulge said stream name. Anyone recognize these?
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Post by akansan on Nov 29, 2007 12:16:08 GMT -5
The pieces on the left look like Lakers. The piece on the right looks like Fancy Jasper out of India.
Here's a question that shows my lack of knowledge about West Virginia - was it glaciated? If so, then the Lakers are a possibility...or if there's a stream that goes into an area that would have glacial deposits...
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Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Nov 29, 2007 12:48:26 GMT -5
Interesting thought, but West Virginia was spared glaciation.
I just threw that slab in to see if anyone knew what it was.
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Post by midnightrocksi3 on Nov 29, 2007 13:00:59 GMT -5
I don't know.. but those are some amazing colors and patterns.. And man I must need a rock hunt fix soon.. cuz I keep finding myself casing the ground in your pic.. whats up with that? LOL ;D Roxy
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Post by akansan on Nov 29, 2007 13:54:59 GMT -5
Okay, then I would go with alluvial deposits of Lake Superior agates. Either that or the guy seeded the river first.
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Post by rockmasterjimbob on Nov 29, 2007 14:49:44 GMT -5
I am from West Virginia, and I can tell you were they were found. I have a ton that look just like em.
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Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Nov 29, 2007 15:21:12 GMT -5
Really?
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fossilbrain
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Post by fossilbrain on Nov 29, 2007 22:45:41 GMT -5
I knew it was too good to be true -- WV is too close to me and my wife already wanted to visit, lol. My book says for WV: calcite, pyrite, quartz, fluorite, hematite, "rock crystal" [what does that mean? (this is a 30 yr. old book)], -- wow: tourmaline! in --> Jefferson Co., Rippon S. (near state line on U.S. 340, a road cut through pegmatite), chert, Mercer Co.: green-banded calcite onyx, certain kinds of agate (probably not the above?), jasper (Morgan Co.), geodes [Pendleton Co., Smoke Hole (if that still exists) limestone cliffs], *silicified corals*, & rare gold. --Jeff Is "rock crystal" a term for quartz that isn't in terminated, crystal form? I'm noob to rocks. One dubious-looking guy who might have been part of today's board attack said he knew where that stuff was in WV, but he also said a photograph was fake, which was incorrect.
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HarryB41
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Post by HarryB41 on Nov 30, 2007 12:12:29 GMT -5
Here is some info on this subject. www.wvgs.wvnet.edu/www/faq/faqmn.htmGreenbrier County has a good source for a great rock that the name of escapes me Someone on here has gone to WV and found plenty of them and may share their resource. Harry
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Nov 30, 2007 15:09:44 GMT -5
If they were from some alluvial deposit I would think they would have been a lot bore rounded off- I guess it could be possible- but I think I would question the truth of the location
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Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Nov 30, 2007 21:46:39 GMT -5
Harry, I would guess that the Greenbriar County stuff you mentioned would most likely be Fossilized Coral (Lithostrotionella) West Virginia's State Gem stone - I find it just across the border in Pocahontas County.
Almost all of Greenbriar County is karst.
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Post by cina on Nov 30, 2007 21:56:01 GMT -5
Lakers yep yep I think you have got some great advice from the above but I do know you can find Lakers is sand pits in IL from glacial movment.
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Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Dec 1, 2007 7:56:25 GMT -5
OK..assuming these are lakers, how much size will I lose tumbling them.
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Post by akansan on Dec 1, 2007 10:27:24 GMT -5
LOL - very little. Lakers are hard and take a bunch of abuse.
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 1, 2007 12:01:52 GMT -5
Here is some info on this subject. www.wvgs.wvnet.edu/www/faq/faqmn.htmGreenbrier County has a good source for a great rock that the name of escapes me Someone on here has gone to WV and found plenty of them and may share their resource. Harry Harry, that was me. I remember asking if you could meet me. See my post in the fossil coral thread.
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agatemaggot
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Post by agatemaggot on Dec 1, 2007 12:49:28 GMT -5
They look like Lakers to me, the amount of loss depends on how long you leave them in the tumbler to shape them.If you have a vibro they won't lose a lot of mass, they will pretty much stay as they are but become polished with pits and other flaws still intact. Using a rotary you have to decide when enough is enough. Lakers have been found in the lower end of the Miss. River but not by the handful. No matter where they show up, Lakers are always PURDY.
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Post by Bikerrandy on Dec 1, 2007 13:16:05 GMT -5
A quote from the West Virginia link... "Diamond a single occurrence in Peterstown, Monroe County, found by William "Punch" Jones in 1928; no additional diamonds have been found in West Virginia" ......I wonder if it already had fecets? ;D
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Trilobite
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Post by Trilobite on Dec 3, 2007 12:27:35 GMT -5
Twelve-year old William P. “Punch” Jones and his father, Grover C. Jones, Sr. were pitching horseshoes in Peterstown, WV one day in April 1928 when one of the shoes landed on an unusually beautiful stone. Believing the item to be simply a piece of shiny quartz common to the area, the family kept it in a wooden cigar box inside a tool shed for fourteen years, throughout the Depression. Punch Jones, meantime, worked his way through college during that time while his father struggled as a county school teacher to provide for his large family.
On May 5, 1943, Punch brought the stone to Dr. Roy J. Holden, a geology professor at Virginia Polytechnic Institute in nearby Blacksburg, Virginia. Holden, shocked at Punch’s discovery, authenticated the find as a diamond. The “Jones Diamond,” also known as the “Punch Jones Diamond,” "The Grover Jones Diamond," or "The Horseshoe Diamond," is an 34.48 carat alluvial diamond. It's the largest alluvial diamond, and the third largest diamond overall, ever discovered in North America.
The bluish-white diamond measures 5/8 of an inch across and possesses 12 diamond-shaped faces. No other precious gems are known to have been found in West Virginia. Dr. Holden speculated that due to its “carry impact marks” and the size of the stone it had probably been washed down the New River into Rich Creek from a source in Virginia, North Carolina or Tennessee.
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