adrian65
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 16, 2009 6:26:45 GMT -5
Hello, everyone! I've been searching for a way to make a hidden bail to my groove wraps, and today the idea "hit" me. I need for this an accent stone at the upper side of the cab. I did this pendant with two scrap cabs that I had at hand. The hematite has the back ruined by myself when I tried to enhance its polish and the groove of the Stone Canyon is anything but straight and even. The two cabs do not match each other neither regarding the colors nor the size and shape. The finish of the wire work is far from being the best, either. I'm writing all of these words to save you from doing it, as I expect the most sincere opinions here and also ideas about improvements of the basic idea (like - is this idea aesthetic, does it worth the work? which are the best proportions between the main stone and the accent stone? should the bail be placed between the stones or should it be better to be placed behind the accent stone? and whatever else you think). Well, after all these words I think this pendant is already ashamed by now to show in front of your eyes, but here it is: front (left) and back (right): In this last pic I like how the pendant looks like hung by the chain a bit insecurely, only around the accent stone. Thanks for looking and especially for posting your critic opinions and ideas. Once again I remind you it's not about this particular pendant but about the potential of the idea. Adrian
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Post by MidNight~Rocksi3 on Jan 16, 2009 10:11:50 GMT -5
Well Adrian.. As you know .. you're one of my favorites.. . and even tho I've seen the idea before.. I think the look of the accent stone balancing on the chain is Crazy Cool.. maybe the size to each other might have to be ajusted... But over all I think after tweeking it a bit.. you'll be able to bring the whole idea to another level of elegance.. I am curious tho.. does the chain want to hide behind the top stone with the bail where it's at? or does it stay stationary like that no matter what your doing?
I do think the neck bail between the two stones is cool like it is.. but what if you went shorter? smaller? I don't know Just another idea.. but still I know if anyone is going to make it look like a million bucks.. It'll be you..
DO YOUR THING MAN!!! Work that magic..
*smiles* Roxy
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Post by frane on Jan 16, 2009 10:22:31 GMT -5
Yep, I like what you have done here. I think the top stone should be a little smaller so it doesn't look like it will throw off the balance. It does look like the top stone is just floating there and a little smaller should perfect that illuson. I think the bail right there seems to work out great! Fran
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 16, 2009 11:08:01 GMT -5
Thank you Roxy and Fran! I fully agree with you that the upper stone must be smaller. Roxy, the chain tends to hide behind the upper stone if I hold the chain in the hand, but once put on the neck, the natural angle of the chain (due to the thickness of the neck) makes it look like in that last pic.
Adrian
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Post by Lady B on Jan 16, 2009 11:20:12 GMT -5
WOW, Adrian!!! Out to set another standard, are you?!!!! ;D ;D ;D I love what you have already achieved here. This pendant makes me think of some very primitive stone goddess!!! I love that the two cabs are from different sources - they offset each other beautifully in this instance! I can see where you might want to make the top cab a bit smaller in future settings, but I love the balance in this one. And the drape of the chain - as you describe it in your last notation - is just right for this design! It's going to be great good fun watching your artistic progressions! And then watching to see what your fan-followers do as they also adapt your newest creative genius!!! Thanks for making my day so much brighter!! ;D Kate
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 11:22:05 GMT -5
I think the first two comments were correct.........I like the concept but think that the top stone should be smaller. I would also keep the binding between the two cabs as short as possible to keep it balanced. Stones that are the same height, with grooves that also the same height are going to be really important so that when you look at the pendant from the side, everything will be even and straight.
Great concept Adrian! I have faith that your talents will pull this idea into something really special.
Shan
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Post by akansan on Jan 16, 2009 11:46:40 GMT -5
I like the bail in the middle with the binding to keep the pendant hanging straight. Behind the accent stone would cause a long pendant to have a tilt to it.
Another thought - looking at the pics, it looks like you've taken the binding from the bottom to create the bail. Is that right?
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Post by Tonyterner on Jan 16, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -5
Have you tried wearing it? I'm wondering if the chain just wont end up slipping behind the upper accent stone, especially if you make it smaller as it needs to be. I'd have to see a better proportioned one to decide if I really like it or if its just OK. I think you're on the right track though.
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 16, 2009 15:03:16 GMT -5
Kate, your kind words make me use this new blushing icon :blush:
Rhonda, you figured out correctly about the bail.
Tony, I think the smaller the accent stone the less possible that the chain to slip behind it. But you are right, I have to do a pendant with better proportions to see how it looks.
Thank you everyone, Adrian
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Post by akansan on Jan 16, 2009 15:31:36 GMT -5
Is there anyway you could take the bail from the top down instead? There would be less chance of a gap appearing between the two parts of the bail then. (That was why I had asked the question.)
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 16, 2009 15:49:28 GMT -5
Very good point Rhonda, great idea, thanks!
Shannon, you're right, the distance might be small, maybe 4 coils only, or five at most.
Adrian
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Post by sitnwrap on Jan 17, 2009 6:05:59 GMT -5
I think this style that you have created is great. My suggestions have already been voiced so I'll just say that with your skills, the final blue print for this style is going to be another Groove Master Master piece.
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Post by Bejewelme on Jan 17, 2009 7:50:26 GMT -5
Groove Master: Nice new idea, like the others I think a little smaller top cab and short bail wrap in between and you got another winner, although this is beautiful. I have several pendants of mixed stones set in silver and I always prefer a smaller top or a T shape, like a long thin stone on top horizontal, and then the big vertical stone. I have a dino bone/boulder opal I love.
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