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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 11, 2009 21:22:30 GMT -5
I can try to do my best with the wrapping .... but once I get to the point where I have to do the bail .... I Choke!!
Is there is a basic (or not) general rule of thumb on how to approach the bail without completely destroying the entire piece by killing the bail?
As always Julie
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Post by sitnwrap on Apr 11, 2009 23:25:56 GMT -5
bails are my biggest challange also. If I did not love wrapping as much as I do, I would hate it because of the bails. Actually it is not the bail but getting the binding started around the bundle of wires.
I bind the left side of the cabs wires together and then the right side of the cabs' wires together so when you bring the two side together, the wires stay in place. but then I find that the two bundles flip and flop around and dont want to stay up close to each other, so I take a matchbook cover and put it between the two. For what ever reason, this helps quite a bit. The pressure from holding the wires together as you bind will also keep the matchbook cover in place in between the 2 sets of wires.
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Post by akansan on Apr 12, 2009 9:43:12 GMT -5
I start my binding wire on the bail with excess binding wire on one side (think of it as a "U" or a backwards "J"). I crimp/squeeze/use pliers on that U. Then, using the long side, I complete the one wrap, again crimping the wire. (One side has two wires laying side by side, the other has one.) I then use the short side to wrap down the bail. This one tight crimp keeps the wires in place, and using the short side second allows you to keep tight, even wraps. And you still have a length of binding wire to use to finish the actual bail.
(After I've wrapped down the bail, I start the bends of the actual bail loops. I use the excess binding wire (the length of the J) to hold the bottom of the loops in place.)
Let me know if that makes sense. I can grab pictures later today, if desired.
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Post by rockmanken on Apr 12, 2009 14:36:00 GMT -5
Julie, try this for something different. I make my bail first, then bring the wires down and end them. Ken
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 12, 2009 17:42:56 GMT -5
I love that piece RockMan!! .... but .... I have a silly question ....
Isn't that a bail at the bottom? Okay .... I may be having one of my famous DUH moments.
As always Julie
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Post by buck570 on Apr 13, 2009 16:24:44 GMT -5
rockmanken love your bail, new to me ! how do those prongs hold up long term.
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Post by kjohn0102 on Apr 13, 2009 17:22:17 GMT -5
Not to take away from Julie's question here-Ken-beautiful wrap! Julie, the bail is at the top on Ken's cab! LOL Is it the wrapping of the bail that has you stumped? I start with all of the wires at the top do 2 wraps around all of them, crimping as I go. This holds everything in place-then I take the 2 (or more depending on how many wires I've started with) center wires to form the bail, then continue wrapping down to include the bail wires. I don't know if that makes any sense-but if you look at Randy's Tut you should get a good idea of how it works. Keep on trying-the more you screw up, the better you'll get! kj
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