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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 20:47:04 GMT -5
I am wondering .... and wondering because I try to copy what I see here. It is a great place to start.
When all of you fabulous wrappers create your pieces, do you sit down and sketch or draw what is in your mind for each cab?
I just see so many awesome things here and am wondering if maybe I should be trying to learn at a more rudimentary level and hence not waste as I do.
I got my copper yesterday and sat down last night and for the life of me I could not even get a binding done, let alone a complete wrap.
I love this art of wrapping and know that it takes time ... however ... I am always looking for new ways for myself to take in the information.
As always Julie
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 21:07:15 GMT -5
I tend to "see" the completed project in my mind prior to even starting the cab, wrap whatever. I then will often sketch the wrap design onto paper so that I have an actual physical visual. This is probably part of my OCD type personality that I do this but I do feel it saves on mistakes/wasted wire later. Sometimes when I sketch something I realize that what my mind was seeing, would not have worked. I can then make the adjustments on paper before starting.
Shannon
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chrisperez
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Post by chrisperez on Apr 23, 2009 21:22:38 GMT -5
I work exactly like Shannon does... Get an adea, sketch it out ( to make sure it is possible ) , then wrap.... I did one today with no sketch, see my new post.... moss agate in copper, it went a little wild. Chris
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 21:28:02 GMT -5
Shannon .... thank you for your response ...
I too am a bit OCD .... when I read about something to do or see pictures of things (in this case wire wrapping) to be created .... when I cannot get it the first time .... my poor little head just hates defeat.
I will try, try, and try (until I get it or hell freezes over) until I know I have created the best I can.
This is where the four and now (happily created) five letter words start spewing out of my mouth and things get tossed around the room. Reminds me of college and my Statistics and Research Methods Class. Cannot tell you how many times the textbook went out the front door. I did look for passing neighbors before said book went airborne. ;D
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 21:33:53 GMT -5
Also!!! .... probably the most important question (or two) ... My wraps never seem to lay flat on the cab. Is this due to the wrap itself not being wide enough? Example .... one of the cabs I would love to wrap .... but hesitate to do so ..... is about 3/8" thick and 1" x 1" ... Should the number of wires I use be consistent with the total width of the cab for the wires to lay flat? As always ..... (leave it to me to ask these weird questions)
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 21:40:04 GMT -5
Chris .... went looking for your Moss wrap and could not find it.
I did however find your other posts about your wraps and WOOF .... you are so talented!!
I love the red tiger eye you did in copper.
As always Julie
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Post by akansan on Apr 23, 2009 22:43:46 GMT -5
I'm the opposite of Chris and Shannon for the most part. I visualize where I want my bind(s) to be, but when I get the basic wrap done, I just play. I have some sense of what I want to do...kinda, but I really do just play with the wire at the end.
As for number of wires - I use the number of wires it takes to equal the width of the bezel, if it has a flat bezel. That way, the bind covers the width of the bezel. But it's really a preference thing. When you say your wraps never lay flat - do you mean the holding wires (the ones that separate from the frame and hold the stone in place)? And are you referring to the ones on front or back?
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 22:54:03 GMT -5
The wires that do not lay flat are the holding ones that keep the stone in place ..... both front and back ....
As always Julie
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Post by MyNewHobby on Apr 23, 2009 23:05:35 GMT -5
Chris!!!!!
I love the Moss ........... wild ..... it deserves!!!
It is great!!!
Julie
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deedolce
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Post by deedolce on Apr 23, 2009 23:54:36 GMT -5
I'm like akansan. No sketches at all, and I am often surprised how things turn out. I just start playing. When I'm really in 'the zone' I can see two or three steps ahead to where I want it to be. Otherwise, it's usually just knowing what I want to do next.
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kjohn0102
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Post by kjohn0102 on Apr 24, 2009 16:05:07 GMT -5
I do not sketch out-I'm not much of a sketcher! I have in mind what I want it to look like, but then it never turns out that way! My daughter came up with a catch phrase that perfectly fits the way I work a wrap "Where ever the wires might lead me"! Too often, they lead me nowhere and I sit for hours with no inspiration! LOL! As for the number of wires-same as akansan-fit the width of the bezel. If you're using soft wire, you should be able to press down to flatten your "holding" wires, if I'm understanding you right.
kj
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Post by creativeminded on Apr 28, 2009 10:48:03 GMT -5
I don't do either. I find a stone or cab that I want to wrap, generally let the stone pick the wire it wants to be wrapped with and then I just start. Sometimes I hit a block when it comes to the top. I generally have 8 wire ends sticking up, find the 2 to 4 that I want to use for the bail. That takes me down to 4 to 6 wire ends. There have been times that I have had to wait until the next day to decide what I want to do with the ends. When it comes to the wire sticking up off of the stone. I have glued leather to a small wooden mallet and when the wire is sticking up too far for my taste I put the cab in my hand and gently tap it with the mallet. Make sure you are not in a bad mood or in a hurry when you tap the wire, I have done this and broke the stone I was trying to wrap. Tami
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