chrisperez
spending too much on rocks
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Post by chrisperez on Jun 21, 2009 15:19:01 GMT -5
First try with the gold filled wire..... ...was a disaster ..... I started out O.K., but my first few binds weren't all that neat.... and when I made the bail it all went wrong, so I put it down last night and decided to try to fix it this morning.... I looked at it this morning, there was no saving it, so I cut the stone out ....boo, what a waste of some nice gold wire ... The 21ga dead soft gold filled square wire was easy to work with, just like the silver 20ga. But the 24ga half hard round ( no 24ga half round ? ) was just too stiff for me to make decent binds. I think I'm going to have to send that back and try something else... maybe 26ga, or 24ga dead soft.... See everyone, I AM still learning ...... CHris
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kjohn0102
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Post by kjohn0102 on Jun 21, 2009 16:16:53 GMT -5
So sorry chris! Try 21g DS half round for your bindings
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Post by Bikerrandy on Jun 21, 2009 17:08:23 GMT -5
If you're using round wire for the binds, then half hard would be too stiff for sure. You need to get some 21 gauge "half" round half hard. Dead soft makes a mess of the bindings, my stuff got 100 times better when I started using the half round/half hard.
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Post by sitnwrap on Jun 21, 2009 21:22:50 GMT -5
I feel for you Chris. It's lousy when it happens with the good stuff. Just start a scrap bag and make sure you keep the gold filled and silver scrap separate for future trade in.
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damammy
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Post by damammy on Jun 21, 2009 21:27:51 GMT -5
It happens to all of us, sort of makes you a little sick when you look at the scap you just created you sort of see $, with the price of wire. Donna
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Post by Tony W on Jun 21, 2009 23:52:12 GMT -5
Half hard works fine... you just have to use tools with it. It all takes practice so junking a few is just part of the game. I learned to stop when I see I am going wrong and leave it for a while. Often I can repair the miss step and get going right again if I am in a different mood with it. I have gone back to pieces months later and straightened them out, because I made myself stop before I completely ruined it It is hard though....I tend to worry the things to death if I'm not stopped, lol. T
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chrisperez
spending too much on rocks
Member since January 2009
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Post by chrisperez on Jun 22, 2009 21:56:03 GMT -5
KJ and Randy.... is 21ga half round what you use? I was thinking it might be a little big ( I have 21 ga square ).... I like the look of the 20ga square and 24ga half round I used in silver... Have you ( or anyone ) tried the 26 ga round gold wire? ( sorry, just bouncing around ideas ) lori and donna.... Yeah, it hurt to scrap this one.... the balled up wad of wire actually DID look like a jumbled mess of dollar signs $$$ ;D$$$!!! I only used about 2 feet of the 21ga, so, I guess it could have been worse . I actually played with the wire tonight ( trying some twisting and bending tricks ) to get a little practice in...I also do have a little jar for each the silver and gold ( I read that tip a while ago ). Tony W.... I'm learning to stop myself, but I stopped too late on this one , your right IS hard, lol!!! It can get so frustrating sometimes. But hey, what dosen't? ... btw, those Koroit pieces you make are awesome!!! Chris
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kjohn0102
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Post by kjohn0102 on Jun 22, 2009 22:53:41 GMT -5
Chris I use 21 ds half round and don't find it too big. I usually use 18 on the bail for extra strength.
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Post by NatureNut on Jun 22, 2009 23:21:00 GMT -5
Hey Chris, I use 21g and 22g half round for my bindings for use with 20, 22 & 24g square wire. Saves me $$$ to use it on all and looks fine. 24g is pretty small and I have a sample of 26g and it is pretty tiny.
I started out using dead soft and got a roll of half hard on account of a stock issue. The first time I used it, I didn't like it, but on my second attempt, I found that, like Randy said about using half hard on the bindings, it made a much cleaner wrap. I now can use half hard or dead soft, whatever I have to work with and either one is okay.
My point being, perceptions change.. Don't be surprised if you develop a knack of working with it, like so many things you've already done. Keep up the great work! Jo
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Post by sitnwrap on Jun 22, 2009 23:28:43 GMT -5
I use 22g half hard half round for my bindings. The thinnest gauge that I have ever worked with is 24g round but that was long ago. I don't think I could see a 26g wire with out a magnifying glass. lol
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Post by Tonyterner on Jun 25, 2009 9:54:44 GMT -5
Chris, I find any half hard wire a bugger to work with although for my gold wraps I do use 24g round half hard wire and don't seem to have too much trouble with it. The reason I couldn't find 22g half round in dead soft. Next time I buy I'm hoping I find the half round in dead soft, that's what I use in silver and really like it.
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