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Post by upsided0wnducks on Oct 21, 2010 18:10:53 GMT -5
Hey guys, so I'm starting to use Gold Filled for some of my pieces, but haven't found any great information on what it is exactly. I know that it's a solid layer of gold over a core of brass, but I'm looking for a good way to advertise it to people who don't know what it is w/o everyone going "Oh! It's plated!" Because it's all I've gotten out of people so far *grumbles* Anyway, suggestions and good websites would be appreciated! Thanks!
Krista
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Post by susand24224 on Oct 21, 2010 19:17:17 GMT -5
It is plated, but there is a lot more gold. I'm sorry, but I don't recall how much. Rio Grande (I think) defines what it is and the difference between gold filled and plated.
Susan
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Post by upsided0wnducks on Oct 21, 2010 19:44:46 GMT -5
I was told it wasn't considered plated, not sure where or who told me that though, so that's why I'm looking for a credible resource to figure out what to tell people. And if Rio Grande has something defining it I'm at a loss to find it lol
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 21, 2010 19:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by sandsman1 on Oct 21, 2010 20:03:11 GMT -5
anyone who complains about gold filled wire just tell them pure gold cant be used to wrap it will crack its kinda brittle when that thin so if they think they have seen pure gold used they prob didnt ( i dont know if thats true for sure ) -- i dont remember seeing pure gold listed for wrapping -- i think i remember two dif kinds with 2 dif amounts of gold in them when i got mine at Rio Grande, i bought the one with more gold doc helped me order cause i didnt know what the hell i was doin that was my first buy haha -- i bet doc could tell you whats what he works with it alot
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damammy
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Post by damammy on Oct 21, 2010 20:05:57 GMT -5
Plated just is a layer over . Gold filled is made by combining layers of gold alloy to a base metal usually brass and then rolling to the desired thickness and shape.
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Post by tkrueger3 on Oct 21, 2010 20:14:31 GMT -5
Like "Damammy" said above, and also, it's bonded together with heat and intense pressure. The difference with plating is that an extremely thin layer of gold is transferred to the surface of a base metal using an electric current - it's called "electroplating" - no pressure or heat involved, and there is a LOT less gold in the finished product than there is in gold-filled.
Tom
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Post by upsided0wnducks on Oct 21, 2010 21:23:33 GMT -5
Thank you for providing the links Randy, and thanks to everyone else with more information than me! Krista
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jackie
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Post by jackie on Oct 22, 2010 21:40:42 GMT -5
When I showed my jewler the pieces I hasd wrapped he said right away it was not gold.I asked how could he tell with the naked eye. He told me that real Gold could not be twisted like this with out being heated as it it is to hard and it would snap.
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Post by Roller on Oct 22, 2010 22:04:36 GMT -5
Thanks for asking ! I was thinking this awhile back ! I really like Sandsman answer and would use that one ... I also have wondered in the past if was to give a special item to a family member which metal would last a lifetime and longer and maybe get handed down . Says gold filled can last 5-30 years which isnt bad but isnt there better ??hmmm Silver tarnishes but can be rebuffed .. gold can be used in a ring . what else ?
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 22, 2010 22:17:20 GMT -5
Jackie- this is correct. Solid gold wire is very hard, even too hard to bend into a wire wrap. (not to mention that it's about $100 per foot!!)
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