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Post by paulshiroma on Sept 29, 2012 19:03:10 GMT -5
Back in August, I had the pleasure of meeting DeeDolce while we were vacationing up in NorCal. At the time, Dee was looking to find a home for an old 14 inch rock saw that she had retired from service a while back so we took her up on the offer. While we were there, we got a tour of her really cool workshop (http://last3rdofmylife.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-saw-part-2.html) and had some time to chat rocks and such. Anyway, we packed up the saw and hauled it back down to SoCal with us. Here's the saw when we picked it up. Still ran well ... a little dusty ... just needed a home. Sort of like the little Christmas tree from "A Charlie Brown Christmas" . I had to disassemble the whole thing to make sure we could pack our suitcases AND my new toy. Grandma and Grandpa thought I was nuts. LOL. My wife, Barbara, is such a gracious gal and puts up with my hobby in a loving and gentle manner. Only occasionally does she poke fun . Anyway, as long as it was disassembled, I'd figured I'd clean it up, put on a new blade (which Dee also gave me), service everything, and repaint it. Here's where we're at so far: Stand: Paint stripped, sanded, primer-ed, and repainted. First coat of paint handled by Andrew and Nathaniel. They did really well and didn't get paint on each other or all that much on the tarp. After the second coat: Saw housing has been primer-ed. Have to figure out how to get the blade off. There's not quite enough room to remove the nut from the blade shaft. I may end up taking out the rock vice equipment. If I have to remove the vice equipment, I figure on recoating the interior of the box (it's wood) with some marine varnish (suggestion from Christopher1234). Alternately, to save a little money, I have some left over pond liner from a previous project that I may use. The pond liner might help seal the drain as Dee warned me that it leaked a bit from around the pipe. Anyway, that's about two weekends of work on the saw. I'll post pics as we progress. With Andrew and Nathaniel in school and basketball, we've been pretty busy so the hobby is going to be relegated to a once a month thing, at best. Thanks for checking out the thread. Any and all recommendations are welcome! Thanks Paul
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Post by Dicky the Rockhunter on Sept 29, 2012 19:25:49 GMT -5
lookin good / bs careful with pond liner , tried it on my 24 inch rebuild coundnt get a realy good seal on the drain and the folds got too much rock snot so took it out and built a steel swim pool workes fantastic.
Dicky
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Post by paulshiroma on Sept 29, 2012 19:45:29 GMT -5
Ah, Dicky, thanks for the tip. I should have thought of that as well as the folds were a pain with setting up the pond as well. Great point. Well, I can't build a steel liner so I'll probably end up using the marine varnish. Thanks for the heads up! Paul
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Sept 29, 2012 20:20:13 GMT -5
If you unbolt the arbor from the cabinet it will allow you to shift everything and remove the blade easier. At that point you could remove the arbor from the cabinet and varnish that area too.
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Post by paulshiroma on Sept 29, 2012 22:29:01 GMT -5
Hey, Mario - yeah, I'll have to look at that. That was the first thing I tried but the bolt setup wasn't immediately obvious. Will have to check it out again later. I agree though ... that should be the most logical option. I'd rather not mess with all the bolts holding down the vice setup.
Thanks! Paul
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Post by catmandewe on Sept 29, 2012 23:24:40 GMT -5
If you unbolt either the arbor or the carriage you will have to re-align the arbor to the carriage when you put it back together. Just a reminder.
Looking good! Tony
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Sept 30, 2012 10:57:10 GMT -5
If you unbolt either the arbor or the carriage you will have to re-align the arbor to the carriage when you put it back together. Just a reminder. Looking good! Tony A very good point, catmandewe, and 1 forgot to mention, thanx for reminding us both of that!! :blush: Regardless of what gets done, when final assembly comes around you'll want to double check blade alignment as it may change with wood shrinking/expanding.
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 30, 2012 12:05:05 GMT -5
It may be possible to loosen the set screws that hold the arbor shaft on the arbor pillow blocks, then slide the arbor out a little so the nut will clear. If you don't clean the shaft up too much it will leave a witness line useful for reassembly, or if it's possible for blade clearance you may want to leave it out there for future blade changes and cleaning. Blade alignment is important whatever you decide to do.
Lee
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Post by paulshiroma on Sept 30, 2012 13:36:05 GMT -5
Glad I posted this thread ... thanks for the advice, guys :-) . The alignment issue hadn't occurred to me (doh!). I'll have to take another look at the shaft and screws and see if I can get that to work. I'd really rather not be fully removing the bolts that hold the assemblies in if I don't have to. The case is wood after all.
Thanks Paul
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 6, 2012 23:17:55 GMT -5
UPDATE: So, I got a hold of Dee and she explained that you have to remove the rock vice equipment to get the blade off. That actually worked out well as it gave me a chance to inspect the interior in greater detail and determine if I needed to re-seal the housing. The vice setup came out quite easily. This also gave me some time to clean up the rails and mountings as well. Got the blade off and cleaned up the housing, removing a lot of old saw oil and such. A check of the blade and shaft setup quickly showed me that it was NOT going anywhere. Glad I got a hold of Dee. Gotta make sure I keep the washers in the same order in which they came OFF the shaft... Now that I had everything out of the housing, I got a good look at the inside. The "constructing" owner did a great job with this and the photos don't really do it justice. The interior is covered in what looks like a cloth mesh and then heavily sealed. The sealant reminds me of the heavy duty varnish/plastic that is used in roller skating rinks. It's at least one or two millimeters thick. So, as of October 6, I've managed to clean it and do some basic painting. Hopefully tomorrow or next week, I'll be able to paint the housing, install the new blade, and reinstall the rock vice. After that, it'll be setup the motor and belt and cover. Thanks for checking out the thread. Paul
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 6, 2012 23:59:08 GMT -5
The interior looks like fiberglass cloth with epoxy resin. Looks like the builder did a nice job. You shouldn't have any leaks.
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Oct 7, 2012 0:02:24 GMT -5
Everything looks great so far, glad you were able to get around the blade removal issue so easily.... can't wait to see it finished. Looking at the pics of the inside of the box reminds me of the old fiberglass cloth that was used in wooden boats being converted to fiberglass inside so the had the look of wood and the strength of fiberglass cloth & resin.
Keep up he good work and keep the photos coming !!
Mario
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Post by stoner on Oct 8, 2012 1:12:21 GMT -5
The inside of the box is covered with fiberglass. I put the motor on this saw some years ago, and now I remember the problem of not getting the nut off. I was going to make a new box for Dee to house this saw, but then I had a stroke and things happened and I never got around to it. When you reassemble the saw, be sure to use marine epoxy on the bolts that go thru the box or they will leak. Marine epoxy is available at West Marine or Tap Plastics if you have those stores in your area. Don't just use marine varnish, it's not the same thing.
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 8, 2012 8:18:39 GMT -5
Hey, Stoner! Thanks for the intel! I'll make sure to get some marine EPOXY for the bolts. When I reassemble the vice frame, is there anything I should be watching for that you recall? The others have mentioned re-aligning, which I'll make sure to do.
Thanks Paul
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 10:08:13 GMT -5
Awesome job Paul! Great score on a usable say. The price was right. Add sweat equity and you will be a stone cuttin' master! Keep this thread going, I wanna learn too.
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 8, 2012 21:50:19 GMT -5
Hey, Shotgunner, I'm learning as I go, too. I'm one of those guys who thinks they can fix things - you may have seen the type on DIY Network's TV show, "Renovation Realities". LOL. I have to keep reminding myself that "... a man's got to know his limitations ...". That said, I've also recently purchased a used 1993 Land Cruiser, joined a Land Cruiser forum and now I think I can do an engine overhaul! .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 10:35:37 GMT -5
I've also recently purchased a used 1993 Land Cruiser, joined a Land Cruiser forum and now I think I can do an engine overhaul! . And you can! Because you will. There may be steps you cannot do for lack of machinery/tools, but you'll pay someone to do that and then you will do the rest! No problems!
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 21, 2012 21:23:06 GMT -5
The boys helped me with some painting while I did some test fitting with the vice. Also got the new blade seated and ready. Re-seated the vice and sealed the bolt and drain holes. Getting pretty close to being finished. Need to get a new belt later from O'Reilly's and then we'll re-seat the motor. Probably next weekend. Here's some photos of today's work. The final piece will be cleaning up the hood. That's been sitting as I figured it can wait until the end. Thanks for checking out the thread. Paul
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Post by rockingthenorth on Oct 22, 2012 1:08:45 GMT -5
looks like you are getting there. I can't wait until your done with it and see it work, well pictures of it anyway.
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Post by paulshiroma on Oct 22, 2012 23:20:12 GMT -5
Hi Tammy! Yeah, you and me both! Ha! It's been taking up room in the garage since we got back on the Labor Day weekend (when we went rock hounding). I saw your threads on your California trip - looks like you hauled back a lot more than I thought! Paul ... I can't wait until your done with it and see it work....
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