Don
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Post by Don on Oct 22, 2012 12:24:14 GMT -5
Here's my new project, a 20" Highland Park slab saw model S1 model R-1: I've start the process of breaking it down for cleaning, sanding, priming and repainting. and have a few questions. 1. the hood has some pretty good dents in it. Can I pound these out with a rubber mallet or is there a better method to use? 2. disassembling the arbor/pulleys/bearings; everything should just slide out (theoretically) once the set screws are removed, correct? farm9.staticflickr.com/8329/8113292494_949a959abd.jpg [/img] 3. any other pitfalls I need to be aware of before I complete the dis-assembly of the saw?
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Post by jamesp on Oct 22, 2012 12:55:38 GMT -5
Best saw ever made sherman taqnker
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Oct 22, 2012 13:12:02 GMT -5
definitely worth the effort to rebuild that one, going to a great saw. Is that the same saw that was in the buy and sell section for $700 last week?
Chuck
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Post by Don on Oct 22, 2012 13:20:49 GMT -5
definitely worth the effort to rebuild that one, going to a great saw. Is that the same saw that was in the buy and sell section for $700 last week? Chuck yeah, I picked it up it last saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 13:25:39 GMT -5
That saw is so clean I would not restore it unless the bearings are shot. When you pull that arbor apart you can end up damaging the bearings, also it can be a real pain to properly align the arbor.
As far as the dents, a rubber mallet would real well.
Nice saw. Good score.
Good luck. Tim
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Post by Don on Oct 22, 2012 14:40:52 GMT -5
Thanks Tim. the bearings turn, but just not real smooth like I would expect. there also seems to be some corrosion going on. they are heavily coated with dirt though, perhaps they will perform better when clean.
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 22, 2012 15:20:58 GMT -5
Put some grease in the zert fittings and see if it turns better, it is probably dry from sitting for so long. If the bearings are bad use a hydraulic press to press them off, it is much easier on your arbor than banging them off. Use a mallet and a deadblow to fix the hood, if you dont have access to one then whatever method works will be fine.
Nice saw..............Tony
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Post by keystonecops on Oct 22, 2012 15:42:23 GMT -5
Whale of a deal fer a timeless saw. Later Clyde
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Post by Don on Oct 22, 2012 18:02:17 GMT -5
Thanks Tony. I'd like to break everything down for cleaning to get rid of all the old dirt and grease, but if the bearings are good, it sounds like I shouldn't mess with the arbor and drive assembly too much. I don't have a hydraulic press, would something like this work If I wanted to remove the bearings and replace them? www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/pullers/3-jaw-pilot-bearing-puller-4876.htmlThere's a few holes in the front, right side of the saw that seem to indicate something is missing. was there a switch here once upon a time?
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Don
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Post by Don on Oct 22, 2012 23:22:21 GMT -5
What do you guys think, is this bearing toast?
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 23, 2012 2:02:08 GMT -5
The 2 holes in the front are from the on/off switch which had a wire going through into the saw that you hook your chain to for an automatic shutoff.
Depends on if that is the seal or part of the bearing race, if it is a seal that is rusting out then you can just keep it full of grease and it will be fine, if it is part of the bearing race then you might have problems. Some of the old ones had a rubber dampner in there also, but I can't tell from the picture which it is but from the amount of rust I doubt it is rubber.
Tony
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Post by keystonecops on Oct 23, 2012 9:04:00 GMT -5
Also fo advice, get ahold of Tim at Cigar Box, Bend Or. He rebuilds HPs, Frantoms etc.. Very helpful. Later Clyde
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Post by Don on Oct 23, 2012 10:45:01 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. What do you use to clean up all the old grease and oil? my dawn dish soap + vinegar isn't cutting it LOL
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Post by keystonecops on Oct 23, 2012 10:51:25 GMT -5
Fer old grease an oil, I'd use brake cleaner. Easy round bearings, make sure ya got plenty of ventilation. Later Clyde
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 23, 2012 20:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by quartz on Oct 23, 2012 22:10:09 GMT -5
The bearings are likely O.K. if the arbor spins freely with no rumbling noise, and slows to a stop without any little hesitations, sort of a bumping just as the arbor stops. Sometimes this bumping can be felt by turning the arbor by hand. If they prove bad, don't try to "get away with it", most likely will bite you just when you don't want it to.
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Oct 24, 2012 0:48:43 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. What do you use to clean up all the old grease and oil? my dawn dish soap + vinegar isn't cutting it LOL If your cleaning out the saw box itself, remove the blade and spray with engine degreaser, but put rags around the arbor near bearings or you could toast them.. let it sit with cleaner for 10 minutes then scrub away with a wire brush, let sit another 10 minutes and drain into a bucket to be disposed of properly later, take it outside and, with valve open, hose it out. wipe it down well and let air dry for the rest of the day, re-paint the interior with a good engine paint, (heat & oil resistant) and when dry your all set!!!! Piece of cake!!!
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Post by Don on Nov 2, 2012 12:21:20 GMT -5
Update: I decided to to full Monty and strip the saw down completely. Here's the Cabinet after two coats of rusty metal primer. I want to try and match the original paint as close as possible and have settled on a hammered silver. It won't be a perfect match, but for my budget it will work. I"ll get a couple coats on it this weekend. I've also pounded out the dents from the hood, sanded it down and am getting the last bit of cemented rock snot out of the nooks and crannies...boy that has been a pain. I should get the hood painted up this weekend too and then I can start working on the internal components.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Nov 2, 2012 13:03:25 GMT -5
that's a lot of work but looks great and your going to have better saw than whats built today for a way better price when your done.
Chuck
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Post by Don on Nov 6, 2012 10:27:59 GMT -5
Here's the saw painted up. I need to get the vise assembly cleaned and painted and then I should be ready to re-assemble the saw.
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