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Post by herchenx on Apr 27, 2013 22:48:34 GMT -5
well other than pet wood! I posted this under Location location location but thought I'd put the fossil here too. Found near Marshall, Wyoming.
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Post by jakesrocks on Apr 27, 2013 22:51:31 GMT -5
Cool. The stem pieces look like they might be horsetail rush.
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Post by keystonecops on Apr 27, 2013 23:07:57 GMT -5
Thats nice John. Later Clyde
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Post by jamesp on Apr 28, 2013 7:10:17 GMT -5
Looks just like horsetail Equisetum.The one i sell is Hyemale,scouring rush and that one looks the same as hyemale.It is a fern.Yep,a tube leafed fern-reproduces by spores.Making it primitive.Ancient.My best selling bog plant. In Birmingham AL fossils of 10 inch diameter horsetail is common.So it used to be a giant.A great conversation plant for the school kids as a landscape plant(fern) for the dinosaurs.You can buy a pot of it at the garden shop to compare.The color differece makes that a pretty fossil-impressive and so similar to hyemale at the garden shop.Here in Atlanta it is evergreen.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 28, 2013 7:24:01 GMT -5
This is hyemale about July with stage 2 growth spurt about 33 inches tall in 6 inch pots growing in my native red clay,got to sell that season or they must go to compost-would be too pot bound to go another year.That plant is planted in March/April a year before,so it is 15 months old as you see it.I may have done this test...i believe that plant carries silica up into it's stalks.Scouring rush because old guys like Jakesrocks used to scrub pots and pans w/it when the dinosaurs wouldn't catch him. And the silica is what cleaned the pots up so well.I also believe it will scratch glass-not sure though.So it may have a mohs 7:> Attachments:
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Post by jamesp on Apr 28, 2013 7:42:00 GMT -5
Posted this before.This is Alabama stuff about 2" dia. Attachments:
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Post by kk on Apr 28, 2013 8:35:21 GMT -5
Looks interesting. Now, what are you going to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 16:55:24 GMT -5
This is hyemale about July with stage 2 growth spurt about 33 inches tall in 6 inch pots growing in my native red clay,got to sell that season or they must go to compost-would be too pot bound to go another year.That plant is planted in March/April a year before,so it is 15 months old as you see it.I may have done this test...i believe that plant carries silica up into it's stalks.Scouring rush because old guys like Jakesrocks used to scrub pots and pans w/it when the dinosaurs wouldn't catch him. And the silica is what cleaned the pots up so well.I also believe it will scratch glass-not sure though.So it may have a mohs 7:> Cannot re-pot and sell 5 gallon size to landscapers for more money?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Apr 28, 2013 17:04:02 GMT -5
Nice fossil, John.
James, I can't believe people buy that stuff. As a kid, my sister and I would play house and we used the little segments for green beans. We always ate green beans when we played. As an adult, I can't kill that stuff. I hate the other horsetail that looks more like a pine branch more (Equisetum arvense), but they're both evil. I really have never found anything that will kill either of them. I once read that the Equisetum arvense can have roots 20 feet deep.
John, I like that plant much better as a fossil than as a plant, now that I think about it.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 28, 2013 18:58:13 GMT -5
Louisiana and way up in Kamloops,British Columbia agrees with you Rob.It is not as aggressive here.Worse was up in BC,giant riverine wetlands w/monocultures of the stuff. Sounds like you guys found a creative use for it.20 foot deep roots is frightening.I know corn can come close to that,does not surprise me that horsetail does that deep.
Scott,those little pots wholesale for $5.A five gal will take up space of 5 x 5 = 25.So i would need to wholesale 5 gal at $25 for same space use.And people do not want to spend that.Sounds great in theory but....They have bought 5-600 for 6-8 years so i pot 600 and about sell out every year.Sometimes they will stop buying a certain variety,and i am left w/several hundred to destroy.Those are deductable....it is what it is....I have sold about 300 so far and potted up 300 for next year.Will fill another 300 pots this week and plant to finish next years crop.Next years crop of all varieties is about 50 percent complete,sells about 40 percent complete.So i am beatAbout all my planting and selling is in April and May.
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Apr 30, 2013 0:38:35 GMT -5
People in Georgia buy horsetail and plant it on purpose?
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Post by jamesp on Apr 30, 2013 7:31:31 GMT -5
Your question would not have made sense to me 20 years ago Daniel.After travelling with an eye out for plants i see how invasive horsetail is.I have never seen any horsetail prospering in the wild in Georgia or Florida.Gotta have something to do with alkalinity.That's a guess. It must invade some of the 10,000 lakes you got up there,or is it more in the rivers,or does it even matter.I have never seen a seedling of horsetail in 20 years of selling it. I am on a mission to find out.
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Post by fantastic5 on Apr 30, 2013 9:04:13 GMT -5
Jamesp- Having grown up in Michigan I fondly remember playing with the horsetails that grew along side Lake Huron. A few weeks ago we were going caving on a preserve that my caving club leases and outside the entrance of the cave (stream cave) was a huge stand of horsetails. This preserve and cave system is a long way from everywhere so I only assumed that it was a native growth. Limited to what I can access here at work, but a quick google search found this photo of the horsetails at that specific site. www.flickr.com/photos/alan_cressler/508515855/in/pool-1111723@N23I live in Chattanooga, so we are nearly neighbors. ;D Ann
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Post by jamesp on Apr 30, 2013 10:08:41 GMT -5
Hi neighbor!A spelunker,Case caverns,Johnson's Crooke,Saltpeter,Sitton's,Pidgeon Mountain.Please be careful.Too much fun.What's that party called-TAG?That is the craziest bunch i have ever seen in my life. Horsetail has gotta be a native here.So you saw it around Chatanooga-how about that.I seen it in north British Columbia where no one goes.More to research.Native-yes/no. You ever see the fossils in the walls of the cave where the high water dissolves the limestone away and crinoids stick out and knock a chunk out of your elbow or shin.I used to take my part time employees and their freinds to Pidgeon Mt to blow their mind.Nothing like virgin cavers.Never made it to the 572 drop in that cave-you?I think you gotta scale a 100 to get to it.But 572-not me.One of the famous Sharcos worked for me for 10 years;you may know those wild ones' infamous spelunkers
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 30, 2013 10:36:11 GMT -5
Was visiting the varity stores yesterday and found some goodies..Going to pick them up tomorrow... One store has some plant fossils(two)..but I'm not interested in them..About palm size.. Lived in Montana(home state) and seen fossil plants everyday...I have a few in my collection (ferns) thats plenty for me.... Oh yes,your plant fossil is cool.......Preserve it and it will last forever...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 17:18:52 GMT -5
Is this the 572??
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Post by jamesp on Apr 30, 2013 20:39:43 GMT -5
Apparently the 572 is the deepest vertical drop in the North American continent.The cave is insane,like 12 colors of arrows in the beginning.Which one do you want to take?A man fell and broke a leg way down in that cave and it took over 50 to do the rescue.I knew easy routes for my virgins,they were mesmerized-great times. Ellison Cave en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellisons_Cave
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Apr 30, 2013 21:41:55 GMT -5
James, It's native so it's not an invasive, but it's common enough that most people wouldn't bother to plant it. In this picture there are at least ten plants, but often it's the only thing growing. That's a skunk cabbage in the background. We did sometimes wash pots and pans with horsetails when I was in the Scouts. It works pretty well.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 30, 2013 21:59:07 GMT -5
I see em.I could sell a million skunk cabbage-too hot here.Apparently they are a nuiscance.Cattails are native too Florida but it is not allowed to bring them in and may have transplant restrictions.Weird.They choke out diversity/create monocultures.
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Apr 30, 2013 22:26:43 GMT -5
Skunk cabbage isn't a nuisance around here. I like it because it's got such a neat flower. I took all these pictures in a city park right down on the Mississippi last spring. We've had a very late spring this year, so nothing is even up yet.
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