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Post by Fossilman on Jun 25, 2013 18:30:58 GMT -5
Finally got these fossils cleaned up..Its a "Scallop"....280 million years old + or - a million or two... I can't figure out if its a "Cyrtospirifer" from the upper Devonian or if its a "Coslispirifer" from the lower Devonian...(I horsetraded these a few years back from someone on the forum(eastern states)..Dang if I can remember who .....Got to start keeping a trading and buying journal..
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Post by keystonecops on Jun 25, 2013 20:47:46 GMT -5
Awww don't worry bout it Mike. Its just CRS LOL Nice fossils. Later Clyde
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2013 10:30:36 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but they both look like brachiopods, not scallops. But I think you already knew that... And yes, I am also afflicted with CRS. Jean
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Post by jamesp on Jun 26, 2013 11:10:10 GMT -5
What caused CRS Jean?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2013 11:28:25 GMT -5
If I had to make a guess, not enough stimulation for my brain? Old age? Too much jalapeno jelly? I can't blame it on having kids, lol! I think of the old saying, if you think you are going crazy, you probably aren't. (Because a crazy person would not realize they are going crazy.) Well, my long term memory is still good, but short term? Hmphhh - I was going to Google something the other day, but before I had a chance to do it, I forgot what it was I was going to look up - DOH! I find myself writing stuff down all the time now - if I can just get it on paper before I forget it...
Can anybody else here relate? Jean
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Post by jamesp on Jun 26, 2013 11:42:14 GMT -5
My problem
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2013 11:43:30 GMT -5
DOH! Sorry, Mike, for disrupting your thread. I'll zip it now. Jean
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Post by jamesp on Jun 26, 2013 11:49:10 GMT -5
Me too. He owes me one for cooking his Montana.PM me your address again Micheal.
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 26, 2013 13:00:45 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but they both look like brachiopods, not scallops. But I think you already knew that... And yes, I am also afflicted with CRS. Jean I beg to differ "rockpickerforever"....Not to argue,But "scallops" are of the bivalves family,while the others are of the brachiopod,which resemble those of the bivalve but are oriented differently in life... You might be thinking of the "Knightites" brachiopod,which these are not...
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 26, 2013 13:05:26 GMT -5
Me too. He owes me one for cooking his Montana.PM me your address again Micheal. Ok buddy,sent you my addy.......... As for a job well done,got ya' covered on that deal,its a "barnburner" too.........Fair is fair,right James..Thumbs up Dang what could it be? LMAO Give me a bit of time and it will be on its way to Georgia...
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 26, 2013 13:18:12 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but they both look like brachiopods, not scallops. But I think you already knew that... And yes, I am also afflicted with CRS. Jean I beg to differ "rockpickerforever"....Not to argue,But "scallops" are of the bivalves family,while the others are of the brachiopod,which resemble those of the bivalve but are oriented differently in life... You might be thinking of the "Knightites" brachiopod,which these are not... The name you gave, Cyrtospirifer, IS a brachiopod.
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 26, 2013 18:43:58 GMT -5
I'm sorry "rockpickerforever",I retraced my work in the book and shouldn't have been doing three fossil species at the same time.. The correct spellings on both are "Costispirifer and Spinocyrtia'...your keeping me on my toes girl....LMAO Thumbs up
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Post by jamesp on Jun 26, 2013 19:22:22 GMT -5
Jean has jump started me before. I'll never forget. I can talk about it now after in-depth counseling.
If it is in your hand meteorite, if it is cruising thru space it is a meteor. DO NOT get it wrong.
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 26, 2013 20:14:33 GMT -5
I think I agree with Jean. Those are Brachiopods as are all the spirifer relatives. Scallops are Pelecypods. Different symmetry, different group all together, though both do have two valves.....Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 27, 2013 0:05:54 GMT -5
I don't know guys,but all my informatin is coming from "The Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Fossils"..........Its a very knowledgeable book with accurate information. I mean no disrepect to anyone.....
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2013 10:51:21 GMT -5
James, I learned ya good, and you'll never forget!
Mike, I mean no disrespect either. I have loads of fossils that I have no clue what they are, LOL! You could post it on the Fossil Forum? Jean
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 27, 2013 11:36:42 GMT -5
I was in another forum a bit ago and seen that Don had a fossil posted in the photos there,that looked like the same one I have,but no name..I'll ask him..Haven't seen him on for a bit though..(hope all is well with him).. I belonged to a professional fossil club a couple time,I quit them too,to snooty and double talk! I don't like that as it feels they are looking down at ya'...
PS: No worries Jean...Thumbs up!
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 27, 2013 17:01:42 GMT -5
I just pulled my Audubon guide out and I see where the confusion comes from. They've listed brachiopods under "scallop shaped" for their key, which is just stupid cause brachiopods are obviously brachiopod shaped and brachiopods are not actually scallop shaped except in the most general way. If you go into the text, you'll see scallops are Phylum Mollusca while your brachiopods are Phylum Brachiopoda. That's the problem with keys, they go on the most general aspects of how things look. You've got to go into the text to really get into classification and taxonomy....Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 27, 2013 20:57:12 GMT -5
Thanks Mel,that helped out a bunch...the boogers doing that to a ol' fart..Dang brain is on half load as it is...LMAO Sorry folks,I'm a hardheaded and kept pushing to what I though was right...Problem solved...LOL
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 28, 2013 14:14:13 GMT -5
*S* Hey, fossils are hard to key out. I've got a pile of books and still get stumped all the time. When I took invertebrate zoology in college the professor had a lab practical exam where you had to reach in a box and identify a brachiopod by feel ( also had a fake spider in another feel box that gave a few of the students a start *L*). No other fossil has quite the same symmetry as a brachiopod once you get used to it, though there are some that look dang near like Pelecypods to me.....Mel
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