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Post by Pat on Sept 2, 2013 19:27:42 GMT -5
I made this head long ago. The material is terra cota clay. I want to mount her on something, probably the rock in the last photo. @shotgunner The head is about 5.5 inches tall. IMG_1530 by Pat6489, on Flickr In order to fire it, I dug out her brains to make her light-headed. IMG_1531 by Pat6489, on The cube is about 4 inches per side. Cube weight about 6 pounds. Head weights about 3 pounds. IMG_1532 by Pat6489, on Flickr What I think I want to do is drill a hole into the rock, stick a dowel into the hole, mount the head on the dowel after filling the head with ? to stabilize it on the dowel. I would also need to put something in the hole with the dowel so it wouldn't wiggle. I figure that I don't want the hole in the rock to go all the way through. Seems it would be stronger if the bottom were solid. I'm not stuck on this rock or on this method, but it is the best thing I came up with. Does this seem feasible to you? All suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
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Post by grizman on Sept 2, 2013 19:49:24 GMT -5
Hi,
I think that I'd try mounting the dowel in the head first, making it as solid as possible, then putting the dowel, with head, into the hole you drilled in the rock block. I'd make sure that my hole in the rock was a little larger than the actual dowel so that if I needed to make any slight adjustment to the head on the rock, I could do so before my "cement" (whatever that may be) set up solid.
I am sure there are other ways to do this, but this would be my thought for what it's worth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 20:57:07 GMT -5
Dang... that cube will make a really nice sphere! Stoney Creek? But I digress................................... I would think a 1/2" dowel would suffice to hold the weight. Do you plan for the dowel to be visible or hidden. My opinion----- Half inch dowel, core drill 1/8" hole, 3/8" and then a 5/8" hole all to the proper depth for epoxying the dowel/head in place. Then just chip away any remaining stone within the hole and epoxy away. Plenty of depth in that 4" cube. Nice sculpting. I am envious. I think it looks like a young grizman. Ha!
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Post by pghram on Sept 3, 2013 10:55:17 GMT -5
If this is planned for out side, make sure that your fill material will not freez, expand, and crack that beautiful work of art.
Rich
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Post by grizman on Sept 3, 2013 15:25:38 GMT -5
Hey Shotgunner,
Thanks for the compliment! I can pretty well promise you that I have never looked that good in many, many moons!
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Post by Pat on Sept 3, 2013 21:20:37 GMT -5
@shotgunner grizmanHmmmm, do you think it is a man???!! Why? pghram, good ideas though it will always be inside. I'll keep them in mind anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 10:28:40 GMT -5
Well Pat, I did say young. But really I was just fooling around! What material is the cube?
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Post by rockmanken on Sept 4, 2013 12:47:35 GMT -5
I would just use silicone around around the base. When it dries, it will be like cement. No need for a dowel and it is waterproof. Ken
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 15:21:01 GMT -5
Pat you may want to test silicone sealant on similar material. If it is the least crumbly silicone wont stick. It'll just pull crumbles away. But if it is stone hard and perhaps even glassy, it'll stick like a son-of-a-gun! Kudos Ken for thinking along another path!
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Post by Pat on Sept 4, 2013 21:03:15 GMT -5
rockmanken@shotgunner I'm going to try that first. There are many silicones. How about Locktite Super Glue Gel? When I need to use a dop stick, that is what I use. I'll sand her neck to make a good contact, mark position, and apply. Do you think that will work? I really like the idea of no holes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 21:05:15 GMT -5
only is the material doesnt flake or crumble.
no holes = good!!
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Post by jamesp on Sept 5, 2013 7:18:15 GMT -5
Would the aerosol foam called 'Great Stuff' do well to fill the cavity up? You can do it in a couple of steps of fill and dry so that it would not expand too much and crack the awesome artwork from compressive force. It comes in low volume expansion and high volume expansion. It is used in the pond business to cement rock around waterfalls. It can be drilled and a rod installed. Or overfilled and sawed off level then painted tera cotta color.That stuff strong.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 5, 2013 7:27:16 GMT -5
The cavity resembles Scott's cavity. He would be the best candidate to answer.
Is it a man? Of course it is. What kind of question is that? It's head is hollow:) You are a mess Pat.
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Post by Pat on Sept 5, 2013 9:48:04 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Dec 19, 2013 15:02:06 GMT -5
I made this head long ago. The material is terra cota clay. I want to mount her on something, probably the rock in the last photo. @shotgunner The head is about 5.5 inches tall. IMG_1530 by Pat6489, on Flickr In order to fire it, I dug out her brains to make her light-headed. IMG_1531 by Pat6489, on The cube is about 4 inches per side. Cube weight about 6 pounds. Head weights about 3 pounds. IMG_1532 by Pat6489, on Flickr What I think I want to do is drill a hole into the rock, stick a dowel into the hole, mount the head on the dowel after filling the head with ? to stabilize it on the dowel. I would also need to put something in the hole with the dowel so it wouldn't wiggle. I figure that I don't want the hole in the rock to go all the way through. Seems it would be stronger if the bottom were solid. I'm not stuck on this rock or on this method, but it is the best thing I came up with. Does this seem feasible to you? All suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Pat needed a greek god so she hired me to be the model. I charged 1000's of dallasz
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Post by Pat on Dec 19, 2013 17:58:59 GMT -5
Oh, jamesp, oh, James, oh, no!!!!! The model's name was Mary Jane!
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Post by jamesp on Dec 19, 2013 21:30:42 GMT -5
That's what i deserve for being so arrogant. Hey- Mary James ! haha That is a good one. I am a true moron. Thanks for that revealing and humorous fact.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 23:20:26 GMT -5
oopsie - sorry Pat, my bad....
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Post by 1dave on Dec 20, 2013 12:03:59 GMT -5
The truth will out . . . whatever or wherever it may be . . . maybe. Psssst- How much did jamesp charge you? I'll do it for 1/16th the price.
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