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Post by 1dave on Nov 18, 2013 7:25:04 GMT -5
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Post by talkingstones on Nov 18, 2013 7:35:12 GMT -5
Ok Dave, Hang on just a minute. Suppose someone who had never really done any smithing before was looking at this board right now. She is wondering about making a metal bracelet… probably like a thick wire type thingie with a large set stone in the center…. She's done wire wrapping and works her own stones but wants to start taking things to the next level. What kind of equipment would she need to do this bracelet and how would she go about doing it? Just saying…. 
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Post by 1dave on Nov 18, 2013 8:30:39 GMT -5
Ok Dave, Hang on just a minute. Suppose someone who had never really done any smithing before was looking at this board right now. She is wondering about making a metal bracelet… probably like a thick wire type thingie with a large set stone in the center…. She's done wire wrapping and works her own stones but wants to start taking things to the next level. What kind of equipment would she need to do this bracelet and how would she go about doing it? Just saying…. Well, if it was me just beginning, being the tightwad I am, I would go to Home Depot and purchase about 5 feet of #8 ground wire, cut off 4 pieces just long enough to nearly go around my wrist and lay them side by side with my stone lying in the middle. Bend the wire into curves so the outer wires curve far enough to accommodate the stone, then solder the ends together. Or, bend the wires lie this: (===)The outer wires being more U shaped and soldered in the middle. That is basically what was done for this bracelet in silver:  Cut a piece of #12 copper wire and pound flat to make a bezel, fit it to the stone, solder it into a hoop, Make whatever design you like, bend the finished flat bracelet around a pipe so it fits the wrist, then set the stone with a burnisher. If you really like it, reproduce it in silver or gold.
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Nov 18, 2013 10:11:27 GMT -5
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Post by orrum on Nov 18, 2013 10:11:27 GMT -5
Ok Dave you just awed me!!!!! That copper bracelet mini tut is incredible!!! If I do it is there a wsy to make the copper not turn my wrist colors? Maybe antique it?
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Post by 1dave on Nov 18, 2013 10:22:49 GMT -5
Ok Dave you just awed me!!!!! That copper bracelet mini tut is incredible!!! If I do it is there a way to make the copper not turn my wrist colors? Maybe antique it? Some think copper is healthy, some have way too much copper in their blood. For me it is an inexpensive (cheap!) way to try new ideas, never insert the stones. You could solder very thin sheet silver to the inside before bending it into shape . . . or dip it in that liquid they make tool grips out of . . .
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Post by gerard on Nov 18, 2013 10:40:36 GMT -5
Never had any luck using a draw plate - cant seem to get the wire to pull through - even annealed as soft as i can get it. Any tricks you care to share on drawing wire?
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Post by 1dave on Nov 18, 2013 11:02:13 GMT -5
Never had any luck using a draw plate - cant seem to get the wire to pull through - even annealed as soft as i can get it. Any tricks you care to share on drawing wire? Pound the end to a smaller diameter so some will poke through, anneal, anoint with lightweight machine oil. Place the draw plate into a WELL SECURED vice, stick the end thru and pull like H E double toothpicks! Anneal again after reducing a couple of sizes. Good Luck!
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Post by wireholic on Nov 19, 2013 16:05:21 GMT -5
Ok Dave you just awed me!!!!! That copper bracelet mini tut is incredible!!! If I do it is there a wsy to make the copper not turn my wrist colors? Maybe antique it? Your body actually needs minute amounts of copper and wearing raw copper really does help with arthritis - your wist will stop turning green after a couple days. If arthritis is not an issue - you can coat the inside with clear fingernail polish or dip the whole piece in floor wax if you want to keep it from tarnishing or turning your skin green
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Nov 19, 2013 17:28:41 GMT -5
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Post by orrum on Nov 19, 2013 17:28:41 GMT -5
Thanks Wireholic!
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Post by gerard on Nov 21, 2013 10:33:50 GMT -5
Never had any luck using a draw plate - cant seem to get the wire to pull through - even annealed as soft as i can get it. Any tricks you care to share on drawing wire? Pound the end to a smaller diameter so some will poke through, anneal, anoint with lightweight machine oil. Place the draw plate into a WELL SECURED vice, stick the end thru and pull like H E double toothpicks! Anneal again after reducing a couple of sizes. Good Luck! Thanks - will give that a try -double toothpicks and the oil - why didn't I think of using oil?
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Post by 1dave on Nov 21, 2013 10:49:48 GMT -5
Ok Dave you just awed me!!!!! That copper bracelet mini tut is incredible!!! If I do it is there a wsy to make the copper not turn my wrist colors? Maybe antique it? I was going to make the described bracelet using what I thought was hard Silver Solder purchased 40-50 years ago. It turned out to be a strip of German Silver!!!! Impossible to melt with a propane torch. I'll have to find some real solder and try again someday.
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Post by 1dave on Nov 21, 2013 11:02:44 GMT -5
Ok Dave you just awed me!!!!! That copper bracelet mini tut is incredible!!! If I do it is there a wsy to make the copper not turn my wrist colors? Maybe antique it? Your body actually needs minute amounts of copper and wearing raw copper really does help with arthritis - your wist will stop turning green after a couple days. If arthritis is not an issue - you can coat the inside with clear fingernail polish or dip the whole piece in floor wax if you want to keep it from tarnishing or turning your skin green True! But some people get too much copper. Check out "Copper toxicity." The article goes on a long way from there, but some people naturally get rid of excess copper by having bright red hair, etc.
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Post by 1dave on Nov 27, 2013 11:17:09 GMT -5
Back to Wire art, make wire stands to display your slabs and specimens, and use it in WireWrapping to make jewelry. What a great way to display those awesome tumbled stones!
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