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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 22:52:50 GMT -5
what euphorbia is that? Maybe we can research and find the pollinator for that species. Could be a moth and we don't have that moth. Jean, you can be a moth next time it flowers!  Jean in moth uniform pre-euphorbia pollination! haha!! Queen Jean, all hail the Queen!! |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 12, 2014 23:56:34 GMT -5
Okay, guys... A moth, really? I was thinking, not along the lines of a pollinator, but wondering if the plant is self fertile or not. If not, means there has to be another one, a male, somewhere in the neighborhood. I can see female flowers, but not pollen producers. So not sure where that little half of the equation came from.
Scott, I'm not sure what kind of euphorbia it is, never bothered to look it up. Someone in Pacific Beach had put an ad in the Reader, like I said 20 years ago or so, for free cactus, you dig up. Got four different ones from there, what a deal! My kind of shopping.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 15:05:09 GMT -5
I owe you guys some pix. Maybe manana.
In the hectic early summer period with visitors and graduation and all I missed my pitchers putting up more pitchers. I now have double the pitcher count from last pics.
Anybody else putting up more pitchers?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 27, 2014 15:12:25 GMT -5
Sadly, not mine  . And I'm down to just two plants, struggling to survive in this desert. Not worth taking pictures of right now. |
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Post by Pat on Jun 27, 2014 16:13:20 GMT -5
I have two tall good gnat snappers. . Twins. Bugs in them.
In a separate pot, there is a very small type. White hoods with some red webbing.
One pot appears dead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 22:49:28 GMT -5
jamesp did you send tarnok to Pat? Pat I'll put pics up tomorrow if you show us yours!!  hehehe
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Post by jamesp on Jun 28, 2014 3:16:25 GMT -5
jamesp did you send tarnok to Pat? Pat I'll put pics up tomorrow if you show us yours!! hehehe Not sure what i sent. Sure founds like Tarnok or Leuc though. Sounds like Pat is satisfied with their abilities. I dug them in the late winter/early spring and had no idea of what they were, as they were totally dormant. |
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Post by Pat on Jul 7, 2014 12:51:36 GMT -5
For the last several mornings, our pitcher plant pots have been tipped over in their water bin. The little red-webbed type floated out of the pot. Doesn't look so healthy any more. I packed the bin with big rocks, so they couldn't be tipped over. Ha! This morning, the biggest plants had been tipped. We suspect raccoons, since they have been sniffing for worms or whatever in our yard.
I think we'll put the plants in the shed tonight for protection.
The tall twin pitchers red spots around the edges are turning brown. Is that due to too much sun? old age? It's been in the 80s and 90s around here for a while.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 7, 2014 13:16:58 GMT -5
Hard to say Pat. under 100F should not be a problem. Not old age. The pitchers curl if too hot.
It's not insect damage is it?
I do have a lot of coons and they never go in the pitcher plant house, doors are always open too.
I am surprised they don't. Maybe the ones in your area are attracted to them.
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Post by Pat on Jul 8, 2014 16:54:02 GMT -5
jamesp did you send tarnok to Pat? Pat I'll put pics up tomorrow if you show us yours!! hehehe Ok, @shotgunner here they are  The best of the bunch. There is usually a bug or two in them. Do they dissolve?  IMG_2612 by Pat6489, on Flickr This is the small plant with the red webbing on white. It's open. Since this photo, some critter dumped it. Might have killed it. The pitcher turned brown, but we are still nurturing it. I had never seen a bug in this little gnat snapper. I've propped it up. It's mostly water, and a little soil.  IMG_2613 by Pat6489, on Flickr This is the other surviving pot.  IMG_2614 by Pat6489, on Flickr |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 8, 2014 20:35:52 GMT -5
The tall ones are Flava. The smaller ones look like Alata.
Will the bugs dissolve ? yes. May take a while, but the should a bug beer soon.
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Post by Pat on Sept 22, 2014 14:36:45 GMT -5
UPDATE: We started with five pots of sarracenia; down to two pots. Here they are:  IMG_2832 by Pat6489, on Flickr Above: The two browned tall plants were among the first to grow. Though I thought the they were dying due to the brown, James tells me it an indicator of low humidity.  IMG_2831 by Pat6489, on Flickr The above is a different type of pitcher plant. Looks very healthy.  IMG_2833 by Pat6489, on Flickr Here's the top of the same plant. They all have had bugs in them the last several days. They appear to be thriving under a rose bush where they might be getting 50% sun/shade 100% of the time. Instead of being concerned about how high the water in the bin is relative to the top of the soil, I've been watching the top of the soil. If it is very wet, I don't add water. |
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2014 5:34:39 GMT -5
The white topped one is the easiest of all of them to grow Pat. Next year I will send you more of those.
I should have known better. I think I sent mostly Flavas and they are fussy.
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Post by Pat on Sept 23, 2014 9:53:59 GMT -5
The white topped one is the easiest of all of them to grow Pat. Next year I will send you more of those. I should have known better. I think I sent mostly Flavas and they are fussy. what is the name of the easy one? |
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 23, 2014 10:08:53 GMT -5
The tip yellowing/ browning and dieback could be due to overfertilzation or the excessive chloramines in Commiefornia water too. Most those carnivorous plants like acidic low salt soils. We had a pond out there and could not grow something as common as water hyacinth due to the excessive chloramines in our Ojai water supply. Showed exactly that same kind of translocative salt damage. First turning yellow at the tips and then turning brown and burning up. Got a lot of calls on this same sort of damage when I worked for Ventura County AG dept.....Mel
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2014 10:21:14 GMT -5
The tip yellowing/ browning and dieback could be due to overfertilzation or the excessive chloramines in Commiefornia water too. Most those carnivorous plants like acidic low salt soils. We had a pond out there and could not grow something as common as water hyacinth due to the excessive chloramines in our Ojai water supply. Showed exactly that same kind of translocative salt damage. First turning yellow at the tips and then turning brown and burning up. Got a lot of calls on this same sort of damage when I worked for Ventura County AG dept.....Mel I worried about alkaline water Mel. Those plants sure do not like salts. Chloramies is not good. Very good point. They were asked not to fertilize. (all bug diet !!) |
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2014 10:23:22 GMT -5
The white topped one is the easiest of all of them to grow Pat. Next year I will send you more of those. I should have known better. I think I sent mostly Flavas and they are fussy. what is the name of the easy one? Tarnok and Luecophyla Pat. Tarnok a hybrid of the luec. They are about the same. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 23, 2014 12:39:50 GMT -5
Didn't I tell you I was worried about the alkaline water?? You said the peat moss would mellow it out, acid not a problem. And the chlorine, yep, wondered about that, too.
Maybe buy distilled water next time around? Or maybe distill my own... There will be some changes for the next batch, hopefully for the better!
Thanks for sharing your pics, Pat. I don't even have something to take a pic of right now.
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Post by Pat on Sept 23, 2014 12:48:29 GMT -5
Jean, I figure the first time around is learning what not to do : ) Next time, with the non-fussy Tarnoks (sound like Star Trek aliens), we should do better.
I haven't had any more problems since I put the bin under the rose bush to get the 50% sun/shade, 100% of the time.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2014 14:18:29 GMT -5
Chances are it is the heat/humidity combo. Three different locations all had similar problems till all three locations moved them into 50% shade they seemed to improve.
and of course it could be complicated and salts/alkalinity could weaken them. It was an enigma that the heat/humidity came close to effecting them. It is the most leathery tough
plant. And it does well in the super hot greenhouse, hotter than Cali but humid. plant should supply water to it's tissue as needed.... We have 8.0 alkalinity water in S. Georgia from
a well, but turns to 4.0-5.0 once mixed w/peat and acidic organic matter. They are growing in super acidic peat. But salts are another story. Mel is right, salts damage does
look like that, but so does drying out. Any of you guys had your water tested. Certainly municipal water has been adjusted. Municipality may well be able to answer water quality
issues, dang sure better know what their water quality is. You guys are drinking it !!
When hurricanes blow ocean water into the forest it cooks the tips of plants. Salt does not play. hmmm
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. And I'm down to just two plants, struggling to survive in this desert. Not worth taking pictures of right now.
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