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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 17:04:07 GMT -5
Chloramine is not stable at 5pH environments. The by-product is complicated and could be worse (chlorophenols). I need to do some thinking on this one. Thanks Sabre52!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 23, 2014 17:23:04 GMT -5
Chances are it is the heat/humidity combo. Three different locations all had similar problems till all three locations moved them into 50% shade they seemed to improve. and of course it could be complicated and salts/alkalinity could weaken them. It was an enigma that the heat/humidity came close to effecting them. It is the most leathery tough plant. And it does well in the super hot greenhouse, hotter than Cali but humid. plant should supply water to it's tissue as needed.... We have 8.0 alkalinity water in S. Georgia from a well, but turns to 4.0-5.0 once mixed w/peat and acidic organic matter. They are growing in super acidic peat. Agreed, most likely a combination of factors. Low humidity, I'm sure, a big part of my failure. Radioactive sun another major player. But salts are another story. Mel is right, salts damage does look like that, but so does drying out. Any of you guys had your water tested. Certainly municipal water has been adjusted. Municipality may well be able to answer water quality issues, dang sure better know what their water quality is. You guys are drinking it !! When hurricanes blow ocean water into the forest it cooks the tips of plants. Salt does not play. hmmm
No, I've never had my water tested, but my water company does on a regular basis, and sends out the results with the bills every now and then. I don't drink the water from my tap, I drink reverse osmosised water. Would hope that would remove the salts.
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 23, 2014 17:43:26 GMT -5
Man, our Ojai water had to be treated so harshly it smelled like a swimmming pool when I took my showers. When they changed over, due to a Giardia infestation I seem to remember, we had to let water set out and offgas before we used it for a lot of kinds of plants. Finally got rainwater barrels too. First pond I built the hyacinths grew so fast they boiled out of the pond and I had to remove tubs full at a time. Second pond, built after the excessive water treatment started, most the water plants just turned yellow, then brown, and withered and died out. Oddly, did not seem to affect water lilies. Never could understand that one. Water tasted terrible compared to the great tasting stuff we have in the Edwards formation here in Texas.....Mel
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2014 18:12:53 GMT -5
Using a lot of copper sulfate to treat algae in closed containers will kill most plants if over dosed, except water lilies.
They seem to feed off of it. It is used heavily by municipalities too. Too dangerous at such high rates for human consumption though.
Certainly it was the chlorine.
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Post by jamesp on May 13, 2017 3:25:58 GMT -5
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