mikeinsjc
spending too much on rocks
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Post by mikeinsjc on Dec 3, 2015 14:18:57 GMT -5
I am in the process of creating a website for my rock business. I sell during the summers in a small town in Montana. I want to be able to point individuals to my website if they have questions regarding collecting rules and regs.I think I have a pretty good handle on all the rules regarding items I sell, but one never knows. So, I am soliciting your input regarding selling the follow things;
petrified wood
dinosaur bones
invertebrate fossils
bear claws
Indian artifacts
If possible try to point me to specific ordinances and websites. I want the site to be as complete as possible. When I get the site completed I will post the link on the forum, as I would like input regarding the other stuff I talk about on the site.
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Sabre52
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Me and my gal, Rosie
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 3, 2015 23:36:24 GMT -5
Wow, that is quite an undertaking. Rules differ according to state vs federal vs county etc. Different for private property too. Feds are locking up more and more specific collecting sites under the antiquities act too. I know it was getting so crazy in California that every ranger, BLM guy, state parks guy etc had a different take on the law. I can actually remember when Federal BLM guys and rangers would point you to sites to collect arrowheads just outside park boundaries. I'd start with a review of the Federal Antiquities Act first if I was you as so many sites are on federal land and that act is so often enforced with vigor. It's one of the most dangerous acts to get on the wrong side of....Mel
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 6, 2015 23:13:12 GMT -5
What small town in Montana?
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 7, 2015 0:17:18 GMT -5
I think it's a bad idea to actually post the rules on your website, they are changing quickly and if someone gets popped by the rangers and says "well, Mike said it was OK" you could be in a world of hurt.
You could post links and include lots of disclaimers like "Check with local authorities".
With the forfeiture laws the way they are folks could lose vehicles with all their rocks and gear, with no charges ever filed and no means of appeal if the so called public servant wants to be an ass.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 7, 2015 1:46:05 GMT -5
I think it's a bad idea to actually post the rules on your website, they are changing quickly and if someone gets popped by the rangers and says "well, Mike said it was OK" you could be in a world of hurt. You could post links and include lots of disclaimers like "Check with local authorities". With the forfeiture laws the way they are folks could lose vehicles with all their rocks and gear, with no charges ever filed and no means of appeal if the so called public servant wants to be an ass. Ironically forfeiture laws are completely illegal. They clearly violate Constitutional law, which overrides Federal and State laws. The Constitution clearly states you cannot be deprived of properly without due process. Since forfeiture involves the seizing of personal property WITHOUT OR BEFORE due process this makes the seizure an act of theft, robbery, grand larceny or auto theft. |
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mikeinsjc
spending too much on rocks
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Post by mikeinsjc on Dec 7, 2015 11:28:05 GMT -5
Fossilman, I'm in Cooke City.
There will be a disclaimer on the site saying this does not constitute legal advice, etc.
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Don
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He wants you too, Malachi.
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Post by Don on Dec 7, 2015 12:06:04 GMT -5
In a few short years, I think the laws will be real simple across the board:
petrified wood -nope
dinosaur bones -nope
invertebrate fossils -nope
bear claws -nope
Indian artifacts -nope
stepping outside and picking up anything - nope
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