steb
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Post by steb on Feb 14, 2019 6:02:26 GMT -5
 Meet my little friend, my first foray into stone work. I have a new Dremel and disc pads along with the included buffing paste. I also have the oxide packages that come with the Lortone #3 lb kit. I have no experience buffing anything and am looking for suggestions. I read about just loading the buffing wheel for the Dremel with Zam, using oxide compound on cloth. For this first project, I would like to try using what I have. Sanding is completed. It seems there are two jobs, the big open spaces and the tight restricted places. The big open spaces are almost shiny now, while the restricted spaces are slightly milky looking yet. |
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Post by fernwood on Feb 14, 2019 6:22:27 GMT -5
I like this.
Petoskey is pretty soft. Be careful what compounds you use for polishing. Some could stain your friend.
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QuailRiver
fully equipped rock polisher
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Post by QuailRiver on Feb 14, 2019 7:08:21 GMT -5
Very Cool! Tin oxide with a canvas buff is often used for petosky stone. ZAM might get down in the pores of Petosky and stain it green.
Larry C.
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Post by MsAli on Feb 14, 2019 8:45:36 GMT -5
Oh he is cute! Really great job.
the master at polishing this material
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 14, 2019 8:55:27 GMT -5
What a great carving! He's adorable. MsAli gave you good advice. Jugglerguy made an awesome video on it. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Feb 14, 2019 15:17:22 GMT -5
Lots of people, including me, use Zam on Petoskeys. I have a little felt wheel that I use with my Dremel. It would probably work really well on that. You can also use aluminum oxide polish on denim. You could fold a little piece in half and work in the tight spots. I have another video showing how to polish with Zam.
That turtle is super cool. I really like it. I have never tried carving something, but that makes me want to give it a try.
The Zam is at the end of this video:
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Post by Starguy on Feb 17, 2019 14:42:58 GMT -5
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steb
off to a rocking start
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Post by steb on Feb 20, 2019 7:16:52 GMT -5
 Thanks for the advice everyone. I ended up using the aluminum oxide and denim cloth and was very surprised and happy how easy it was. I also learned the lesson that if the stone still looks milky in the cracks, it has not been sanded well enough at some stage.  Here is the next project. I am struggling to make decisions on how to set up shop given all the options. First I use an angle grinder outside to shape, then inside with a respirator and the Dremel sanding drums. After that? 1. Purchase the fifty piece diamond bit set for the Dremel in 80,120, and 240 grits. 2. Use diamond grit powders. Make wooden applicators. 3. Use silicone oxide grits. 4. Some other option for stones in the 3-5 hardness. 5 . For lubrication and dust should I go water, oil, paste, etc.. I am scouring the forum for more details and trying to make the right choices. I am also thinking about making a small portable drip arrangement to keep dust out of the picture but wonder if someone has already done this better or if it is even a good idea. |
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steb
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Post by steb on Feb 20, 2019 11:51:49 GMT -5
Lots of people, including me, use Zam on Petoskeys. I have a little felt wheel that I use with my Dremel. It would probably work really well on that. You can also use aluminum oxide polish on denim. You could fold a little piece in half and work in the tight spots. I have another video showing how to polish with Zam. That turtle is super cool. I really like it. I have never tried carving something, but that makes me want to give it a try. The Zam is at the end of this video: I have looked at all those videos, thanks for taking the time. Since I am working three dimensional, there is that difference, so what saw arrangements to make? I imagine wanting to slab stones Like you did to get the starts in the shaping videos, simply to not waste the trim on 3d objects. Currently I grind away and waste all the excess stone. I imagine a 3d technique of trimmng around the sculptured stone with maybe a tile saw. This is the first time I have seen rock saws in action since I did thin sections in rock slide preparations circa 1980. The flat lap is not an option for three dimensions in at least some situations. I like the diy dripper as this is something that seems should be portable for multiple stations or areas. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Feb 20, 2019 12:32:07 GMT -5
Lots of people, including me, use Zam on Petoskeys. I have a little felt wheel that I use with my Dremel. It would probably work really well on that. You can also use aluminum oxide polish on denim. You could fold a little piece in half and work in the tight spots. I have another video showing how to polish with Zam. That turtle is super cool. I really like it. I have never tried carving something, but that makes me want to give it a try. The Zam is at the end of this video: I have looked at all those videos, thanks for taking the time. Since I am working three dimensional, there is that difference, so what saw arrangements to make? I imagine wanting to slab stones Like you did to get the starts in the shaping videos, simply to not waste the trim on 3d objects. Currently I grind away and waste all the excess stone. I imagine a 3d technique of trimmng around the sculptured stone with maybe a tile saw. This is the first time I have seen rock saws in action since I did thin sections in rock slide preparations circa 1980. The flat lap is not an option for three dimensions in at least some situations. I like the diy dripper as this is something that seems should be portable for multiple stations or areas. I was just suggesting that you look at how I applied Zam with the little felt wheel on a Dremel. I think the edge of the wheel might be good for applying into the concave parts. I wasn't suggesting that you use my other techniques. I've never carved anything like your turtle, so I wouldn't know where to begin. |
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Kai
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Post by Kai on Feb 20, 2019 14:06:14 GMT -5
I love the turtle! The surface is great, the dark bits look like patina. So pretty and noble (and the little turtle itself looks like it's just a bit shy!  ) |
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steb
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Post by steb on Feb 20, 2019 16:24:14 GMT -5
I was just suggesting that you look at how I applied Zam with the little felt wheel on a Dremel. I think the edge of the wheel might be good for applying into the concave parts. I wasn't suggesting that you use my other techniques. I've never carved anything like your turtle, so I wouldn't know where to begin. I am just looking for suggestions, I loved the video for the techniques I have never seen. Thanks for everything. |
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Post by fernwood on Feb 21, 2019 5:48:58 GMT -5
Turtle turned out great. Can't wait to see the fish.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 21, 2019 8:54:10 GMT -5
Don't forget about diamond cut-off wheels for the Dremel. They would be great for making small cuts and for adding some texture to your carvings if you so desired.
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