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Post by rockjunquie on May 18, 2019 15:31:57 GMT -5
I got a sweet deal on ebay for a new/used saw. New blade, new motor, etc. No manual. I don't think it ever cut anything. I can't figure out how to use the vice, though. I get that it slides on the left rail, but it doesn't slide because the rail is textured paint or powder coated with a rough surface. It's new, not repainted. Don't know how that vice is gonna slide.
Anyone have a pdf manual they can send me? The link at Johnson't brothers is dead.
My grown son's bday is coming up. He has a ton of slabs and slabettes. I want to give him this to make and sell preforms in his spare time.
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Post by amygdule on May 18, 2019 15:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on May 18, 2019 16:33:30 GMT -5
Thank you, yes, that was all I could find with google site search. I was hoping there was a proper user's manual.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on May 18, 2019 23:22:16 GMT -5
We have one, but the vise slides okay. Shots in the dark, but check for sharp edges on the vise or excess powder coat thickness on the saw rail or table. As a last resort you might spread the sheet metal on the vise where it slides (theoretically) on the rail.
Sometimes vises like this stick to the saw table once there's a little water and sludge on it. I've epoxied hard slick plastic "feet" on them to let them slide freely.
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Post by rockjunquie on May 19, 2019 0:31:48 GMT -5
We have one, but the vise slides okay. Shots in the dark, but check for sharp edges on the vise or excess powder coat thickness on the saw rail or table. As a last resort you might spread the sheet metal on the vise where it slides (theoretically) on the rail.
Sometimes vises like this stick to the saw table once there's a little water and sludge on it. I've epoxied hard slick plastic "feet" on them to let them slide freely. Yeah, seeing how it's new maybe the surface just needs to wear in. I hope so because spreading that sheet metal seems impossible. LOL!
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Post by rockjunquie on May 19, 2019 0:37:29 GMT -5
We have one, but the vise slides okay. Shots in the dark, but check for sharp edges on the vise or excess powder coat thickness on the saw rail or table. As a last resort you might spread the sheet metal on the vise where it slides (theoretically) on the rail.
Sometimes vises like this stick to the saw table once there's a little water and sludge on it. I've epoxied hard slick plastic "feet" on them to let them slide freely. Since you have one... Let me ask- is the little "screw" or what ever it is at the bottom of the tank removable for draining/cleaning? If so, what it is it- Philips head, allen or what? We plan to use water and an additive with this and would like to drain it after each use. I haven't cut anything, yet, but I turned it on to check it out and was surprised by how quiet it is. Is this something that can be used in the house or is it too wet?
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Post by grumpybill on May 19, 2019 6:21:33 GMT -5
Use a hex/allen key to remove the plastic drain plug. I have my Rock Rascal set up in the basement close to the slop sink, so I just leave the bolt out that holds the table, lift it off and dump into the sink. hummingbirdstones2 can tell you how he replaced the plug with a valve and tubing. I wouldn't hesitate to use my Rock Rascal in the kitchen. Maybe with an old towel under it. The splash guards do an excellent job of containing the water/oil. The only mess I get comes from the water/oil dripping off the stones when I take them off the saw table.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on May 19, 2019 10:59:51 GMT -5
Yeah, you can replace the plug with a "barb" to attach tubing. The valve I used works great until it builds up a little sludge inside. Then I have to take it apart to clean it.
I'll remove the valve if it annoys me too much, and just plug the end of the drain tube. As long as the end of the tubing is above the liquid level in the saw reservoir it can't drain out. Put whatever lenth tubing you want on it, and just coil it up behind the saw until it's time to drain it.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on May 19, 2019 11:13:57 GMT -5
I have one of those rail slide clamps for a model J but seldom use it. On mine the left side rail isn't quite parallel to the blade so it would be a little rough on the blade if I used it much. But my vise didn't come with the saw, it was a latter acquisition. My Rock Rascal was made in the early 1980s and the clamp, if I remember correctly, I ordered in the late 90s. I can't remember if the optional vise was even available in the early 80s so they may not have been making the saws with a true parallel-to-blade edge at that time.
I used to use mine a lot with water and Raycool which was an additive that Raytech used to make but found that the blades and bearings don't last as long using water & Raycool so mainly just use it with oil unless I'm trimming something porous in which case I still use water & Raycool.
As far as the rough edge goes you could probably sand it smooth with wet/dry SC paper from the auto parts store and then wax the edge rail with paraffin to make it slicker for the clamp to slide on.
Larry C.
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Post by rockjunquie on May 19, 2019 11:15:20 GMT -5
Thanks guys- good info.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on May 19, 2019 20:59:25 GMT -5
Here's another thought for you, rockjunquie .
I've used the vise as it's intended, but since then I've covered a wood block with sheet metal to fit in the vise for use as a fence. It's way easier than moving the "cross-feed" for each slab. Just set it to the desired thickness and slap the rough up against the fence for each slab until it's done.
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