jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 17, 2019 5:57:02 GMT -5
Tree climber Jeff Gilbert is the air man and me the ground man. He had 3 oaks dropped into sections in 1 hour 20 minutes w/out a rest. He wanted $500. Amazing skills. He drops the logs, I cut them as needed and roll them down the slope and into a pre-made fire. And drag the limbs into the fire. May have burned 70% of the mass that Thursday. No spring chickens, both in our early 60's. It is all about technique and not muscle. A tree removal permit is required for trees over 8" at or above 2200 feet elevation, these are at 2193 to 2197 foot elevation so barely below the line. The 3 oaks:  A long way down, Jeff aiming for the fire best as possible:  These heavy trunks were carefully dropped in a direction to be able to roll them down the slope and on to the fire. Note one log stuck in the ground.  These should be all ashes in about 2 days. The limbs were used to fuel the fire to intense heat needed to burn the thick green logs. Adjustments were made the next morning involving rolling the logs on to the coals as the center logs burn away. The alternative was to have the logs hauled away at a cost of several thousand dollars. There is little market interest in such trees in this area due to the dense mature forests and constantly falling nuisance trees.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 17, 2019 7:15:55 GMT -5
Wow, someone's been busy! Every day, another step closer to your goal.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 17, 2019 8:34:08 GMT -5
You never cease to amaze me, James.
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Post by saxplayer on Jun 17, 2019 8:59:04 GMT -5
Very impressive. I helped my father in law in central MO do the same with his 700 acres and tons of large black walnuts etc.. fire pit is the only way to get rid of them. Not worth the cost at all to haul away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 9:31:22 GMT -5
These should be all ashes in about 2 days. That's a huge job! I kept scrolling down, hoping to see that you used all that heat to melt some glass  |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 17, 2019 9:44:16 GMT -5
Wow. The projects you undertake, jamesp. Amazing. |
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Post by Pat on Jun 17, 2019 10:20:13 GMT -5
I love to see changes as they occur.
Beautiful area! What are you going to build there? Thanks!
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 17, 2019 15:02:50 GMT -5
Just two old geezers using their brains and experience. Hope to build a cabin there Pat if I can work with building inspectors. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 17, 2019 15:07:54 GMT -5
A well tuned LIGHTWEIGHT chainsaw with a brand new super sharp chain eats those logs up like a shark bitting thru hot butter sticks.
Fun part is bowling - rolling the logs down the steep slope into the fire. Gravity and a good aim is a dear friend in this task.
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Post by mohs on Jun 17, 2019 15:28:39 GMT -5
Excellent James I just received, out the blue, an email message from my childhood pal I haven’t seen in him in over 30 years. All the message said was:
Are you still around ? I relied back.
Yep like a rock rolling downhill/ I should have further added that Gravity and a good aim is a dear friend in this task. A goal on my eternal  Any way james I could still accomplish some of that. But no where near- w/the zeal- you seem to possess Roll On ! |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 5:00:22 GMT -5
Excellent James I just received, out the blue, an email message from my childhood pal I haven’t seen in him in over 30 years. All the message said was:
Are you still around ? I relied back.
Yep like a rock rolling downhill/ I should have further added that Gravity and a good aim is a dear friend in this task. A goal on my eternal Any way james I could still accomplish some of that. But no where near- w/the zeal- you seem to possess Roll On ! Your friend has to remember your creative outlook on life. Can't blame him for tracking you down. Hope you guys get reconnected. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 5:16:30 GMT -5
Wow, someone's been busy! Every day, another step closer to your goal. This will be the 2nd time ever working with building inspectors. And strict ones at that. Property is totally rural but this county is on of the strictest in 168 counties of Georgia. No land disturbance allowed within 50 feet of the creek yet my downstream neighbor drives his big tractor thru the creek every pass he makes muddying the creek and causing big erosion. They are even considering preventing the use of the 50 year old logging road for a driveway because it is within 40 feet of the creek. Here I am trying to carefully clear and grade a small 1/4 acre spot in 4.7 acres and leave the rest of the property untouched and natural. Even hiring a tree surgeon to collapse the trees in place so the trees don't fall and damage the adjacent natural vegetation. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 5:41:14 GMT -5
You never cease to amaze me, James. This is another get-away Tela. The third one ever. Rent free spot in heaven location. The other two were sold with nice profits. The last get-away in Florida was sold with enough profit to finance several new get away spots so financing this one is totally justified. If doing life over again building get-aways and using them for a few years then selling may not be a bad way to support yourself financially. 20 years ago a real estate 'savings' account was opened. The rule was that this account had to be self supporting. So properties were bought, subdivided, and lots sold, and one lot kept for a camp or cabin for personal use. Fun money so to speak. Install the camp/cabin on the best lot and conveniently clean up the adjacent lots for resale while visiting camp/cabin. Like 7 waterfront acres split into 3 lots and sold and 30 waterfront acres split into 7 lots and sold. Darn if this account grew faster and bigger than 25 years of hard labor selling plants and 4 years selling fire pits. This real estate account will serve as primary source for retirement funds and required 1/100 of the effort of the other businesses. Point is, a fine vacation spot does not have to be a financial liability. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 5:53:50 GMT -5
Very impressive. I helped my father in law in central MO do the same with his 700 acres and tons of large black walnuts etc.. fire pit is the only way to get rid of them. Not worth the cost at all to haul away. OMG, 700 acres. Tell me you had heavy equipment to assist saxplayer. Doing this 1/4 acre by hand has about worn me out lol. The adjacent 90,000 acres of National Forest is steep and covered with 100 to 150 year old hardwoods, yet older(unusable) giant hemlocks and mountain pines. The steep mountain slopes hold dense forests because the masts of the trees can be staggered due to more sun exposure, air flow, moisture from clouds and available volume. By now the trees are too big for modern sawmills and will start to deteriorate due to age. It will be interesting to watch these forests over the next decade. When one travels the multitude of gravel National forestry roads a chain saw is about mandatory due to aging hardwoods falling across the roads regularly. Burning is the best choice. Seems wasteful but it is the way it is. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 5:57:41 GMT -5
These should be all ashes in about 2 days. That's a huge job! I kept scrolling down, hoping to see that you used all that heat to melt some glass A beautiful white(milk)quartz vein was struck while grading. White quartz shards laying around everywhere. These hot fires have near melted some of them. After learning how particular glass is to heat and cool the idea of using wood fuel was quickly abandoned lol. The ole computer controlled electric kiln is the way to go. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 6:27:59 GMT -5
Wow. The projects you undertake, jamesp. Amazing. It will all be over with soon enough Robin. A one time effort. As is most project work. One step at a time. This zone is strictly watched by environmental folks. Steep land is subject to damaging erosion effecting trout water. Erosion control fencing mandatory. This section of north Georgia is also a world renown motorcycle destination because of the steep rollercoaster switchback road system like The Trail of the Dragon. Both on/off road. I am located dead center of some of the best of the best cycling roads. It takes an hour to cover 12 miles of Hwy 60 due to tight switchbacks, one of the routes to my property. Like a 40 mph speed limit that no Ferrari or Lamborghini can maintain due to the sharp turns. But they try lol. On the weekends ambulances are parked at many intersections. So a shipping container or 2 to stow the cycle is on the menu. Along with a mean off road 4wd and ATV's(toys). Thinking two - 20 foot shipping containers set 12 to 16 feet apart with a welded roof system to cover them. Welding shop between with tools and electric to assist cabin build and for camping in.  |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 18, 2019 6:33:52 GMT -5
You never cease to amaze me, James. This is another get-away Tela. The third one ever. Rent free spot in heaven location. The other two were sold with nice profits. The last get-away in Florida was sold with enough profit to finance several new get away spots so financing this one is totally justified. If doing life over again building get-aways and using them for a few years then selling may not be a bad way to support yourself financially. 20 years ago a real estate 'savings' account was opened. The rule was that this account had to be self supporting. So properties were bought, subdivided, and lots sold, and one lot kept for a camp or cabin for personal use. Fun money so to speak. Install the camp/cabin on the best lot and conveniently clean up the adjacent lots for resale while visiting camp/cabin. Like 7 waterfront acres split into 3 lots and sold and 30 waterfront acres split into 7 lots and sold. Darn if this account grew faster and bigger than 25 years of hard labor selling plants and 4 years selling fire pits. This real estate account will serve as primary source for retirement funds and required 1/100 of the effort of the other businesses. Point is, a fine vacation spot does not have to be a financial liability.
Sounds like a plan I should have put in place 35 years ago. Good for you for having the foresight (and energy). 
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2019 8:35:05 GMT -5
This is another get-away Tela. The third one ever. Rent free spot in heaven location. The other two were sold with nice profits. The last get-away in Florida was sold with enough profit to finance several new get away spots so financing this one is totally justified. If doing life over again building get-aways and using them for a few years then selling may not be a bad way to support yourself financially. 20 years ago a real estate 'savings' account was opened. The rule was that this account had to be self supporting. So properties were bought, subdivided, and lots sold, and one lot kept for a camp or cabin for personal use. Fun money so to speak. Install the camp/cabin on the best lot and conveniently clean up the adjacent lots for resale while visiting camp/cabin. Like 7 waterfront acres split into 3 lots and sold and 30 waterfront acres split into 7 lots and sold. Darn if this account grew faster and bigger than 25 years of hard labor selling plants and 4 years selling fire pits. This real estate account will serve as primary source for retirement funds and required 1/100 of the effort of the other businesses. Point is, a fine vacation spot does not have to be a financial liability. Sounds like a plan I should have put in place 35 years ago. Good for you for having the foresight (and energy). I wish 35 years ago instead of 20 years ago. Other than the construction periods the real estate stuff was rather passive. If someone could do this full time and make decent money they would live a fun life. IMO it is very do able. |
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