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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 11:45:41 GMT -5
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 11:55:50 GMT -5
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 11:58:35 GMT -5
What would be the right price for the first 3? Ball park?
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 12:04:21 GMT -5
What size blades are the saws? What diameter is the flat lap? the flat looks like a 6” or 7”? The hi tech looks like a 6”. The star doesn’t say but I’m guessing 10” |
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 12:20:11 GMT -5
Thanks. That’s was my estimate too. I didn’t realize parts were missing to the flat.
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 13:07:22 GMT -5
I made the purchase. 500. Just took that next step from tumbling lol. Now I gotta figure out how to work all this stuff! Thanks Jade Davidson your input was a big help. He also has a diamond band saw but no blade which I could probably get for 2 bills or less.  |
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Post by manofglass on Oct 9, 2021 13:45:57 GMT -5
You can get blades for that saw at delphiglass.com
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 9, 2021 21:43:31 GMT -5
I’m curious about the feed on the saw, let us know if you need help troubleshooting the problem. Yeah I will probably have some questions lol. I may have some time tomorrow to unbolt it from the base and see underneath it. I’m guessing with the crystal master they don’t make the water reservoir anymore but it seems like something that can be made with a little ingenuity. I’m going to peruse the library of old threads here to see what I can learn about all 3 of these. Now I have to clean out the garage to make a work space for this stuff. Thanks again, and thanks manofglass also! This site is awesome and the people here are the greatest! |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Oct 9, 2021 22:52:52 GMT -5
We bought these for our flat laps for the water drip. Beats having to keep refilling the cup up all the time. |
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 7:32:12 GMT -5
Taking a closer look at this Crystal Master. As the pictures show this unit does not have a way to change the lap? There is the screw looking piece but it does not back out to release the lap disk and with no center arbor I see no way to change the actual lap which kind of doesn’t make sense. I though you would have several laps; ie 300, 600,1200, etc that you could use with this?   |
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 9:14:50 GMT -5
Yep that was it! The disk has a kind of slotted area for the rod to engage into. Looking at videos for similar equipment I’m guessing a good selection of discs for this would be what I listed above? 300 up to 14,000? Really just looking at working with quartz based stuff. I’m leaning towards polishing thunder eggs faces ( I’m about 2 hrs away from Wiley Wells ), polishing windows, or just cleaning up stuff for the tumbler.
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 9:50:17 GMT -5
Just went thru the 10” saw and nothing wrong with the auto feed! I am so unfamiliar with this equipment I didn’t realize how slow it pushes forwards. There is oil in the reservoir so at least they weren’t running it with water. I’m very stoked with the purchase and I’m considering going to get the diamond band saw. Gonna offer 150 for it and see what he says.
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 10:13:00 GMT -5
Yep that was it! The disk has a kind of slotted area for the rod to engage into. Looking at videos for similar equipment I’m guessing a good selection of discs for this would be what I listed above? 300 up to 14,000? Really just looking at working with quartz based stuff. I’m leaning towards polishing thunder eggs faces ( I’m about 2 hrs away from Wiley Wells ), polishing windows, or just cleaning up stuff for the tumbler. I bet there are some people more qualified than me to answer because I’ve never done flats on a flat lap, but you will want a couple hard coarse grit laps for shaping and removing saw marks. I like to start with 100 for cabbing, but an 80 might be better for shaping to tumble. Cabbing machines can handle a good amount of pressure so quick removal of rock with a 100 is possible, a machine that small might slow down considerably if you apply to much pressure, so I could see an 80 being helpful to speed up the grinding. A second hard 220, then jump to finer grits like you mentioned with a foam backing. There are a few options out there, find out what is compatible with your machine and talk with the makers about what you are trying to do and they will point you in the right direction. I dig the setup, you can take a rough rock slab, trim, and cab the thing with those three tools. Again a big thanks to you, manofglass, Hummingbirdstones, and everyone on these boards! This community is truly a blessing! And going thru the 6” saw nothing is wrong with it either, the blade had slipped off the arbor. It’s a MK 330 blade so I’m guessing wherever he got these they knew their stuff and everything looks well maintained, just a little dusty. I’m really leaning into going to get the band saw. Gonna be hard to find another one at the price I can probably get it for. Jumping in with both feet and no parachute! |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Oct 10, 2021 10:13:24 GMT -5
Yep that was it! The disk has a kind of slotted area for the rod to engage into. Looking at videos for similar equipment I’m guessing a good selection of discs for this would be what I listed above? 300 up to 14,000? Really just looking at working with quartz based stuff. I’m leaning towards polishing thunder eggs faces ( I’m about 2 hrs away from Wiley Wells ), polishing windows, or just cleaning up stuff for the tumbler. You will want at least 180 and up. Maybe even an 80 or 100. Depends on how gnarly the surface is that you're starting out with. |
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Post by rockhoundingwithkids on Oct 10, 2021 11:29:42 GMT -5
Those mystery items seem to be pottery wheels.. I'm 98% certain
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 12:54:07 GMT -5
Those mystery items seem to be pottery wheels.. I'm 98% certain Thats what is was thinking also. The thing that has me baffled is the conveyor with the steel roller. He was trying to tell me they were putting rocks on there and breaking them up with the roller. I told him that is doubtful lol. |
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Post by perkins17 on Oct 10, 2021 13:08:35 GMT -5
Congrats on the purchase quartzilla! Just like that, you have a full lapidary shop! |
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Post by quartzilla on Oct 10, 2021 14:16:45 GMT -5
Thanks Perkins17! My shop just got bigger too! I went and got the Gryphon diamond band saw. Also got the wax pot, wax pen, wax tools, vibe grits, etc for another 175. Not sure I’ll ever need the wax stuff but for that price I couldn’t leave it. Worst case scenario I will pass it on to someone who will. He had a 20 lb tumbler and a facet machine too but those went on Friday before I made it over there.   |
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 10, 2021 14:20:39 GMT -5
All I can say is, "Damn!"  |
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Post by QuailRiver on Oct 14, 2021 20:45:13 GMT -5
The item in the fourth photo is a slab roller for clay. It's used for making tiles and slab built pottery projects. The two machines in the fifth photo are potter's wheels for turning pots. I believe that they are probably older AMACO brand pottery wheels. The seventh photo is a dust collector for a jewelry or dental buffer like/or similar to the one shown in the last photo. If you gave $500 for the lot you got a really good deal. Assuming they work properly you could recover most of your investment off of the slab roller and pottery wheels. Or you could buy a ceramic kiln and now have TWO expensive hobby!  |
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