RWA3006
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Post by RWA3006 on Oct 20, 2021 22:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Oct 21, 2021 21:10:31 GMT -5
This is the earliest and most accurate date yet not just for the European settlement of the Americas, but for circumnavigation of the globe, the researchers said, giving us a definitive reference point for understanding the global transference of knowledge, goods, and genetic information.
"This date offers a secure juncture for late Viking chronology. More importantly, it acts as a new point-of-reference for European cognizance of the Americas, and the earliest known year by which human migration had encircled the planet."
So, the Viking North Atlantic leg squared the big circle for mankind a thousand years ago – hadn’t thought of it in cumulative terms before. Fast forward 501 years and some of Magellan’s crew score a ribbon in the individual category.
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Post by parfive on Oct 21, 2021 23:41:50 GMT -5
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Post by gemfeller on Oct 22, 2021 1:13:48 GMT -5
There were people in the Americas 16000 years ago at minimum; new evidence suggests 18000 and perhaps earlier. How they got here remains a question but it was probably by boat along the coasts, skirting the huge ice sheets covering the northern part of what's now the U.S. There's no evidence of hominid evolution in either N. or S. America, so those humans had to come from elsewhere. In my mind that makes the current question of who specifically discovered America moot. It's unanswerable.
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Post by RWA3006 on Oct 22, 2021 7:52:17 GMT -5
There were people in the Americas 16000 years ago at minimum; new evidence suggests 18000 and perhaps earlier. How they got here remains a question but it was probably by boat along the coasts, skirting the huge ice sheets covering the northern part of what's now the U.S. There's no evidence of hominid evolution in either N. or S. America, so those humans had to come from elsewhere. In my mind that makes the current question of who specifically discovered America moot. It's unanswerable. Looks like it's been bumped back to around 21,000 years ago. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/96594/old-tracks
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Post by gemfeller on Oct 22, 2021 13:14:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that as a news item not long ago. Haven't had a chance to really delve into it yet. If valid it upends nearly all prevailing hypotheses about the peopling of N. America.
The academic "Clovis Barrier" has really had a huge negative effect on studies of anthropology/archaeology in the U.S. The old saying that no progress can be made scientifically until the current crop of academic experts dies off seems especially true in this field. Until recently, once Clovis artifacts were found, digging stopped because it was "known" Clovis was the earliest human culture in N. America.
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Post by mohs on Oct 22, 2021 15:24:47 GMT -5
must have been the kinder gentler Viking type
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Post by parfive on Oct 23, 2021 2:30:27 GMT -5
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