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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2022 12:19:23 GMT -5
Yes RickB. Families could bring their kids because it covered with wood. The gravel road is 90% broken wood the kids could fill their pockets with while Dad was in the woods next to them picking up larger chunks. It looks like wood so the kids would get into it. The lot I would like them to cut me would be 200' to 300' wide, 800' long, 600' to creek. Big creek travelling 400' thru property. 2 hours with a bulldozer would make a 600' x 20' wide road loaded with wood. A plow and my farm tractor would re-expose tons of it in 2 hours. Would need a tall fence !
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Post by RickB on May 23, 2022 14:30:46 GMT -5
Price's Wood Ranch Tallahatta Wood Ranch Big Jim's Wood
You also need some property around River Road/Stoney Bluff Landing Rd near Girard Ga.
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Post by Sabre52 on May 23, 2022 16:22:36 GMT -5
Ah , so many possibilities for roadside signs pointing to Jim's fee dig.
WANT TO SEE SOME GREAT WOOD? 400 FEET TO TURN, ASK JIM
TURN RIGHT JUST AHEAD. YOU'LL BE DIGGIN JIM'S WOOD.
JIM'S FEE DIG. HIS WOOD IS HARD AND GEM QUALITY. HAVE HIM SHOW YOU FOR A REASONABLE FEE.
*L* I know my wife says I have no filter.
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Post by 1dave on May 23, 2022 19:36:50 GMT -5
Sounds like a Done Deal.
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Post by 1dave on May 23, 2022 19:39:41 GMT -5
Yes RickB. Families could bring their kids because it covered with wood. The gravel road is 90% broken wood the kids could fill their pockets with while Dad was in the woods next to them picking up larger chunks. It looks like wood so the kids would get into it. The lot I would like them to cut me would be 200' to 300' wide, 800' long, 600' to creek. Big creek travelling 400' thru property. 2 hours with a bulldozer would make a 600' x 20' wide road loaded with wood. A plow and my farm tractor would re-expose tons of it in 2 hours. Would need a tall fence ! 160 acres?
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Post by lparsons on May 23, 2022 20:19:31 GMT -5
I have never seen anything like that before… it’s absolutely gorgeous!🤗 Pecky cypress is a big business in Florida lparsons. It is also an old Florida tradition to panel the inside of a home with it. It used to be hated by the timber industry in the 1800's when cypress lumber was used for practical lumber. It is not uncommon to find 100 to 200 year old floating logs with a 2 to 3 inch deep pyramidal shaped ax cut in the surface of the log to find out if the tree had been damaged by the pecky fungus. If attacked by fungus, the tree was useless for lumber. Sometime in the 1900's people saw the beauty in the pecky wood and started sawing it for decorative paneling, funky furniture and art. Lake Rodman is a large Florida lake that was made with a dam and a big failure due to flooding vast 40' deep peat floodplains that were ancient cypress log graveyards. 6' to 8' diameter cypress logs started floating up in mass. Locals started towing the logs to their shorelines and making millions of dollars sawing the ancient logs. Then the Corp of Engineers had to get involved because of the fighting over the valuable logs and the fortunes being made off of government property lol. It was a political mess. To this day the ancient forest bottom can be seen thru the clear lake water at certain locations. The lake bottom is riddled with 25 foot diameter rotted cypress stumps where the peat floated away. I owned property on that lake and counted the growth rings on some of those large log sections. Damn things kept floating up against my shoreline being on the downwind side.(no problem, the log poachers would haul them off at night lol). Interestingly the logs averaged 3000 to 6000 years old. Most of them averaged about 50 to 100 annual growth rings per inch, very slow growing. Must have been an impressive forest rivaling the sequoia forests. I never could figure out why scientists did not make age studies of these logs. Mind blown here!🤣 That is some incredible information jamesp! I’ve never heard of pecky cypress… It’s absolutely fascinating. I’ll have to do some research on it. I can’t imagine how gorgeous pecky cypress paneling would be!
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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2022 22:10:58 GMT -5
Price's Wood Ranch Tallahatta Wood Ranch Big Jim's Wood You also need some property around River Road/Stoney Bluff Landing Rd near Girard Ga. Indeed, 25 years ago wife and I and buddies collected Girard/Stony Bluff. In one area 5 acres would supply enough Savannah chert for decades. About 8 acres would do the trick and would include beautiful creek at the wood site. Found the owners, they are up in age and local. Headed out tomorrow to inspect a potential purchase.
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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2022 22:13:44 GMT -5
Ah , so many possibilities for roadside signs pointing to Jim's fee dig. WANT TO SEE SOME GREAT WOOD? 400 FEET TO TURN, ASK JIM TURN RIGHT JUST AHEAD. YOU'LL BE DIGGIN JIM'S WOOD. JIM'S FEE DIG. HIS WOOD IS HARD AND GEM QUALITY. HAVE HIM SHOW YOU FOR A REASONABLE FEE. *L* I know my wife says I have no filter. Too funny Mel. I fear the gender's attracted this day and age !
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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2022 22:14:36 GMT -5
8 acres would probably do the trick 1dave.
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Post by jamesp on May 23, 2022 22:22:41 GMT -5
lparsons That property had arrowheads, artesian springs, tons of driftwood, an indian mound and great bass fishing. Next to about 6 miles of lakefront timber property with high sand bluffs over the lake full of wild ATV trails. It also had one of the densest bear populations in the US. At a town called Hogtown with a couple of intimidating bars made out of concrete block. Enter at own risk ! And I sold it for a pretty penny. Loved that property.
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Post by jamesp on May 24, 2022 6:51:36 GMT -5
Larger chunks of this material holds together well when sawing even when riddled with linear fractures in a grid pattern. Talk about making fine tumbles without beating the crap out of the rock with a hammer. Cool part is sawing thicker say 1/4" to 1/2" to 1" slabs and tapping them with a brass hammer to break them into squares, rectangles and rhombus for cab slabs and tumbles. These smaller solid segments are dead hard with no fractures and about impossible to hammer into smaller pieces. This was a 4" x 4" slab tapped with a hammer at the natural fractures. A slight saw cut to finish the remaining fractures works well(see arrows).
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Post by 1dave on May 24, 2022 14:12:46 GMT -5
Larger chunks of this material holds together well when sawing even when riddled with linear fractures in a grid pattern. Talk about making fine tumbles without beating the crap out of the rock with a hammer. Cool part is sawing thicker say 1/4" to 1/2" to 1" slabs and tapping them with a brass hammer to break them into squares, rectangles and rhombus for cab slabs and tumbles. These smaller solid segments are dead hard with no fractures and about impossible to hammer into smaller pieces. This was a 4" x 4" slab tapped with a hammer at the natural fractures. A slight saw cut to finish the remaining fractures works well(see arrows). I believe Morresonite is metamorphic jasper and that is what makes it so hard. Perhaps your material is metamorphic agatized pet wood, horsetail, and palm. thegemshop.com/pages/morrisonite-location
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Post by 1dave on May 24, 2022 18:30:56 GMT -5
Q: How small are the pieces it shatters into if dropped on a big rock? Smaller than 2"X2" excellent tumble material for selling.
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Post by jamesp on May 25, 2022 7:15:39 GMT -5
Larger chunks of this material holds together well when sawing even when riddled with linear fractures in a grid pattern. Talk about making fine tumbles without beating the crap out of the rock with a hammer. Cool part is sawing thicker say 1/4" to 1/2" to 1" slabs and tapping them with a brass hammer to break them into squares, rectangles and rhombus for cab slabs and tumbles. These smaller solid segments are dead hard with no fractures and about impossible to hammer into smaller pieces. This was a 4" x 4" slab tapped with a hammer at the natural fractures. A slight saw cut to finish the remaining fractures works well(see arrows). I believe Morresonite is metamorphic jasper and that is what makes it so hard. Perhaps your material is metamorphic agatized pet wood, horsetail, and palm. thegemshop.com/pages/morrisonite-locationThis material appears to be just another silicified sedimentary deposit. It just happened to favorable conditions for wood silicification. The wood appears uprooted by a flood and being that it initially floats wave action pushed it deep into the the coves along the 300 miles of the Alabama fall shore line. Every cove along the Alabama fall line contains petrified wood. Albeit much is poorly petrified. However this section of the fall line is particularly rich in silica judging from the mass silicified sandstone. Well, that was my theory used to find the deposit... "The Tallahatta Formation consists of several types of siliciclastic sedimentary rocks. The dominant lithology is micaceous sandy claystone. It is thick-bedded, massive, and contains abundant trace fossils and burrows. A study by Schroeder and Harris (2004) in Mississippi determined that the claystone contained significant amounts of opal-CT (essentially non-crystalline quartz) and the zeolite mineral clinoptilolite. The presence of both of these minerals are significant as they are thought to be alteration productions derived from volcanic ash. Indeed, Schroeder and Harris (2004) imply that much of the fine sediment in the Tallahatta Formation in Mississippi was derived from a volcanic source. They also suggested that opal-rich claystone in Alabama might have been derived from more biogenic sources as they contain fewer zeolite minerals and, as observed in this study, more marine indicators (e.g., burrows). Other researchers (e.g., Counts and Savrda, 2004) have suggested that diatoms might have been the source of much of this biogenic silica."
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Post by jamesp on May 25, 2022 8:49:15 GMT -5
Q: How small are the pieces it shatters into if dropped on a big rock? Smaller than 2"X2" excellent tumble material for selling. That is the way it is Dave. But, too much work collecting tumble rock for this aging body. Finding that the finest silicification is by far found in the short log segments less than 3 inches long. Obviously the silica was transported easier thru the vascular capillary terminations at the log ends. This issue limits the tumble-able wood to about 10 to 20% since most of the pieces are much longer than shorter. However some longer logs have near parallel permeable fractures running across the grain their entire length which allowed long log sections to silicify beautifully throughout. Silicified coral has capillaries in it's tubes also, short sections of coral are almost always more colorful. Example - well silicified and colorful short log sections from 1/2" to 2" long in grain direction. All stacked with grain running up and down. Even after petrification the wood still(hammer) splits best with the grain like splitting firewood.
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Post by jamesp on May 25, 2022 9:42:20 GMT -5
Unlike coral, wood floats and rots quickly. Meaning the wood has to first be uprooted, then transported, then deposited, then covered up to petrify/silicify/fossilize. All in a relatively short time frame of a year or two so as to beat the 'rot timeclock'. No doubt this wood was transported, heavily mixed, and deeply piled by deposition and covered with soil by deposition in the process. It is all located at steep sections of coves of an ancient ocean's shoreline(for over 300 miles of shoreline in this case). It is not located on flat areas, telling that oxygen exposure would have likely rotted it quickly, and/or it floated past flat areas.
Wood does not last long in aerobic or anaerobic conditions unless conditions are unusually favorable(either frozen or in a high acid peat bog). Wood covered up in a peat bog almost always has fungus damage that would be visible in the petrifications. This suggests that petrification/silicification/fossilization is a fairly fast and WARM process.
The much shorter creation hypothesis has always made sense to me from a depositional standpoint. I still can't find a single mineralized human bone but can find 1000's of mineralized mammal bones in streams and rivers in Florida. Mineralized mammal bones have been sought after for decades and not a single human bone in millions of mammal bones collected ? They found Paleo spearheads in mammoth remains, humans roamed with the mammoths. Certainly some humans died in those creeks and rivers...William Bartram accurately reported biological data to England as a contractor in the 1700's and he reported alligators over 25 feet long. Alligators are known to be long lived and can grow to great lengths. In recent centuries man has killed the big ones off(easy to do). None over 16 feet have been killed or seen in the past 100 years. It is likely that such large alligators had to have killed humans including the dense population of cottonmouth vipers, sabre tooth lions, leopards and other early carnivorous mammals.
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Post by jamesp on May 25, 2022 10:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by HankRocks on May 25, 2022 10:25:02 GMT -5
That root mass reminds me of the Cypress root masses I have seen in some of the Texas Hill country rivers, Guadalupe River State Park had a couple impressive root masses.
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Post by mohs on May 25, 2022 11:07:19 GMT -5
Petrified woods in the deep roots What an exploration james ! I’m knot to great at the observance thing Butte did notice these far extended Roots of Eucalyptus don’t suppose Eucalyptus grow in the southeast ?
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Post by jamesp on May 25, 2022 11:49:06 GMT -5
Petrified woods in the deep roots What an exploration james ! I’m knot to great at the observance thing Butte did notice these far extended Roots of Eucalyptus don’t suppose Eucalyptus grow in the southeast ? The Sycamore is 4000 feet upstream north of the road bridge. This wood deposit is getting bigger ! The hike up there has me itching from poison ivy and pulling ticks off lol. Lots of butt sliding down the slick steep slopes. Bad case of buttocks rash from the ivy. Much of the pet wood in the forest has poison ivy roots surrounding it. Welcome to the south ! Eucalyptus will grow here but only slowly Ed. They will get large in Florida but still no as big as that fine specimen. Funny that a non-native Castor tree will grow a 10 foot diameter trunk. Must like the humidity. But it will freeze above central Florida. Castor used to be grown for castor oil until they figured out how to make it synthetically. It spread by seed all over the Ocala National Forest. They hired Central American jungle timbermen to saw them all down(300,000 acres). A big job. Sycamore is an evil heavy wood. It is one of the few trees that will sink in water, i.e. super dense. But cuts like butter with a chainsaw go figure. A bad day if having to pile/load Sycamore logs. I took a few more photos from the Sycamore, one is of the 60 foot tall bluff covered with mountain laurel that found happiness 300 miles south of it's native territory. Mountain Laurel is happy next to high humidity generated next adjacent to fast flowing water. The laurel bluff: Some wood loaded rock bars. Heavy rain stained the normally clear water closer in, roots are from Sycamore. I only see 2 quartzite pebbles in the batch. 50 miles downstream it is 99% quartzite and 1% wood !
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