hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on Jun 10, 2022 10:21:14 GMT -5
I've deceided to try some rock stabilizing and have watched the video about the subject several times. From the articles I've read and the video, it seems that the base epoxy of choice is "330" epoxy. I know several vendors on the web carry 330 but that involves shipping at a crazy price for just one item. Locally, I've been able to find some casting resin and several brands of the quick set 2 part clear epoxy. Are either of these items OK for mixing with the acetone for the stabilizing mix? No one locally carry's the regular old time standard setting time epoxy. So, I'd like to find out if mixing the 5 minute epoxy and acetone will work. I'm repeating myself but I don't want to ruin a good stone. Same thing for the casting epoxy. I know that the casting epoxy is a slow cure, sometimes days, depending on thickness, but that is with no acetone mixed in.
If anyone can help me out I would appreciate the advice.
Thanks,
Jim
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Post by manofglass on Jun 10, 2022 14:49:52 GMT -5
Is it a waterproof epoxy not all epoxys are
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Post by liveoak on Jun 12, 2022 5:55:38 GMT -5
I haven't tried it, but would certainly thing any clear 2 part epoxy would work.
A slow setting one might actually be better.
Patty
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 12, 2022 7:25:59 GMT -5
hoolligan1938 You mentioned that you don't want to ruin a "good stone". I can't advise strongly enough to start with some scrap or less valuable stone.
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fencejumper
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Post by fencejumper on Jun 12, 2022 9:14:12 GMT -5
I've deceided to try some rock stabilizing and have watched the video about the subject several times. From the articles I've read and the video, it seems that the base epoxy of choice is "330" epoxy. I know several vendors on the web carry 330 but that involves shipping at a crazy price for just one item. Locally, I've been able to find some casting resin and several brands of the quick set 2 part clear epoxy. Are either of these items OK for mixing with the acetone for the stabilizing mix? No one locally carry's the regular old time standard setting time epoxy. So, I'd like to find out if mixing the 5 minute epoxy and acetone will work. I'm repeating myself but I don't want to ruin a good stone. Same thing for the casting epoxy. I know that the casting epoxy is a slow cure, sometimes days, depending on thickness, but that is with no acetone mixed in. If anyone can help me out I would appreciate the advice. Thanks, Jim Once you mix Acetone with any of these? You can throw the cure time right out the window😊. Lets start from the beginning = Are you looking to stabilize? Or seal fractures?
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Post by broseph82 on Jun 12, 2022 9:37:56 GMT -5
hoolligan1938 You mentioned that you don't want to ruin a "good stone". I can't advise strongly enough to start with some scrap or less valuable stone.
This is the best answer. Quit messing with the 330s, 360s, 600 2 part anything's. Art resin is superior in every aspect and it's non-toxic. I even think it's better than Hxtal when price and set time is compared (Hxtal takes 2 whole weeks per instructions).
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hoolligan1938
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Post by hoolligan1938 on Jun 12, 2022 9:50:14 GMT -5
fencejumper - I'm looking to stabilize so that when I saw or shape the stone, it doesn't crumble or break off. Hope this helps you with a recommendation. broseph82, I think I might just have to get some art resin because it looks like that is the "go to" for filling voids.
Jim
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 12, 2022 9:54:36 GMT -5
fencejumper - I'm looking to stabilize so that when I saw or shape the stone, it doesn't crumble or break off. Hope this helps you with a recommendation. broseph82, I think I might just have to get some art resin because it looks like that is the "go to" for filling voids. Jim tagging for you fencejumper and broseph82
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fencejumper
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Post by fencejumper on Jun 12, 2022 13:24:34 GMT -5
fencejumper - I'm looking to stabilize so that when I saw or shape the stone, it doesn't crumble or break off. Hope this helps you with a recommendation. broseph82, I think I might just have to get some art resin because it looks like that is the "go to" for filling voids. Jim tagging for you fencejumper and broseph82 For porous stones The cactus juice in vacuum chamber Will work best IMO😊 If u want to fill some cracks and such The art resin has worked best for me SO FAR. I have other experiments going on at this time🔥🔨 But as of now.. these are my go toos
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hoolligan1938
spending too much on rocks
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Post by hoolligan1938 on Jun 12, 2022 15:21:28 GMT -5
Thank you folks. What I'm trying to do by stabilizing is to be able to take some of the softer stones and cure, or stabilize, them so they don't fall apart when sawn, tumbled, and polished. I hope I'm on the right track. From what I've read, I think that's what has to be done. I ordered some "Art Resin" so I can use it to fill any pits on all stones. I do not have any problems with agates and the likes, hard stones, and don't feel the need to stabilize them. Hope I'm right on that. All of your inputs are important to me and I appreciate you taking the time to write them for me.
Jim
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