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Post by jamesp on Jul 10, 2022 15:48:49 GMT -5
It lacks color but has some cool structure. It had been worn to a cobble. They are normally about 5 times longer than wide when whole. When colorful they are showy and can have many crystal cavities. Not common.    |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 14:21:18 GMT -5
That is a really cool pattern jamesp. I like the shapes of the crystal structures inside. |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 12, 2022 19:25:18 GMT -5
That is a really cool pattern jamesp. I like the shapes of the crystal structures inside. The magnification of the photo helped see the structure Ashley. They can have geodes in each cavity. Cycads are larger and palm like but similar. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 12, 2022 20:15:14 GMT -5
What the heck happened to my comment from the other day?? Obviously, once again I closed the tab without hitting the "Post Reply" button! LOL I think some of the coolest cabs I've done were a couple of fern roots from West Texas - where you could see that cross sections of the cellular structure like that. I love seeing this kind of cross-section! Thanks for posting these pics!  |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 13, 2022 12:57:50 GMT -5
What the heck happened to my comment from the other day?? Obviously, once again I closed the tab without hitting the "Post Reply" button! LOL I think some of the coolest cabs I've done were a couple of fern roots from West Texas - where you could see that cross sections of the cellular structure like that. I love seeing this kind of cross-section! Thanks for posting these pics! If you like fern you might like pocket-rot-wood Jason from friend's collection.(it's Texas thing) www.flickr.com/photos/97769244@N00/albums/72157613759024309 |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 13, 2022 13:24:36 GMT -5
What the heck happened to my comment from the other day?? Obviously, once again I closed the tab without hitting the "Post Reply" button! LOL I think some of the coolest cabs I've done were a couple of fern roots from West Texas - where you could see that cross sections of the cellular structure like that. I love seeing this kind of cross-section! Thanks for posting these pics! If you like fern you might like pocket-rot-wood Jason from friend's collection.(it's Texas thing) www.flickr.com/photos/97769244@N00/albums/72157613759024309If I didn't know better, I would have thought some of those pieces were amazing Dino Bone! How amazingly similar. I get it from a structural standpoint it's the same basic thing as Dino Bone...cells being replaced by agate...but WOW! Thanks for tagging me on these!! They're stunning!! |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 13, 2022 14:55:44 GMT -5
If I didn't know better, I would have thought some of those pieces were amazing Dino Bone! How amazingly similar. I get it from a structural standpoint it's the same basic thing as Dino Bone...cells being replaced by agate...but WOW! Thanks for tagging me on these!! They're stunning!! They also call it dino bone wood. It is wood that shrinks into checkerboard like shapes(called shrinkwood) and then each wood section agatizes or converts to a druzy cavity. It is mostly found in east central Texas. It is common for wood to rot and shrink into cubes in hot dry areas(might be what happened in ancient times being Texas was probably a hotter environment than say Montana/Oregon/Washington, my theory ha). Let's just say that Texas wood can be really deceptive in not being able to say it is wood due to its shrinkage or/and mechanical manipulation of some type. And probably a much wider variety of species variety often found in tropical environments(compare a monospecies forest of conifers up north to a wide variety of hardwoods in a southern forest). Or a much more diverse species of trees in tropical forests of say Brazil or Columbia. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 13, 2022 18:15:28 GMT -5
If I didn't know better, I would have thought some of those pieces were amazing Dino Bone! How amazingly similar. I get it from a structural standpoint it's the same basic thing as Dino Bone...cells being replaced by agate...but WOW! Thanks for tagging me on these!! They're stunning!! They also call it dino bone wood. It is wood that shrinks into checkerboard like shapes(called shrinkwood) and then each wood section agatizes or converts to a druzy cavity. It is mostly found in east central Texas. It is common for wood to rot and shrink into cubes in hot dry areas(might be what happened in ancient times being Texas was probably a hotter environment than say Montana/Oregon/Washington, my theory ha). Let's just say that Texas wood can be really deceptive in not being able to say it is wood due to its shrinkage or/and mechanical manipulation of some type. And probably a much wider variety of species variety often found in tropical environments(compare a monospecies forest of conifers up north to a wide variety of hardwoods in a southern forest). Or a much more diverse species of trees in tropical forests of say Brazil or Columbia. Well I called the Dino Bone, didn't I ?!?! LOL I suppose this is one of the few cases where "wood shrinkage" is a good thing! LOL (Sorry...I couldn't resist!) |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 14, 2022 9:06:40 GMT -5
Your brain is firing on all 8 cylinders jasoninsd ! You are too young to be concerned with "wood shrinkage" lol. you may never have to be concerned with such ! So my dream would be to walk up on a field full of untouched shrinkwood. There are half acre to two acre patches of similar petrified wood or palm scattered on open land in this area. Well, the exposure may only be 2 ditches running thru the patch. Most have drab specimens but it is possible to find high grade stuff. These patches can yield a gold mine. This spot had a high preponderance of palm. Probably transported only a short distance from an overlooking plateau to the left judging from the topography. This is the high water mark for Lake Falcon which has probably not been covered with lake water for decades. The highwater shoreline is to the left. Mesquite has been happy growing on this higher elevation lake bottom since the lake has dropped for so long. The sad part is that the calcium carbonate 'Paint' has dissolved away so the rockhound can see the the rock surface. The other 95% of the cobbles closer to the lake are still heavily painted and hidden with the calcium coating. There is enough fine rocks there to cover every rockhound's yard 10 feet deep with fine material. An ag sprayer with water diluted with muriatic acid would expose those calcium coated suckers !  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 14, 2022 20:39:20 GMT -5
Oooh! I never thought about the muriatic acid dilution! I did take a garden sprayer with me on the last river outing. Kept filling it up in the river and coating the rock banks with as much water as I could spray. If really was an awesome technique. The sprayer weighed next to nothing, so every time I got back in the raft to go downstream, I emptied it before loading up. Worked like a charm! |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 17, 2022 8:25:08 GMT -5
Oooh! I never thought about the muriatic acid dilution! I did take a garden sprayer with me on the last river outing. Kept filling it up in the river and coating the rock banks with as much water as I could spray. If really was an awesome technique. The sprayer weighed next to nothing, so every time I got back in the raft to go downstream, I emptied it before loading up. Worked like a charm! One of the springs that feeds the Rio Grande Jason: "The hot thermal water flows out of a rift along the Rio Grande that appeared more than 50 million years ago. The rift uplifted Truth or Consequences’ landmark hill, and faults along the rift allow deep groundwater to flow freely to the surface without losing heat or minerals—producing pristine waters with temperatures ranging from 98 to 115 degrees, with trace elements of 38 different minerals. The pH of the water is 7, or neutral. 21 day soaking plan May Cure “Whatever Ails You” With almost 2,700 parts per million of assorted minerals, these thermal springs constitute some of the most heavily mineralized water in the United States." This basically spells very hard water that could lay a serious coating down on rocks that it contacts. Guessing this is a mineral coating on Lake Mead's bluffs:  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 17, 2022 9:32:07 GMT -5
Oooh! I never thought about the muriatic acid dilution! I did take a garden sprayer with me on the last river outing. Kept filling it up in the river and coating the rock banks with as much water as I could spray. If really was an awesome technique. The sprayer weighed next to nothing, so every time I got back in the raft to go downstream, I emptied it before loading up. Worked like a charm! One of the springs that feeds the Rio Grande Jason: "The hot thermal water flows out of a rift along the Rio Grande that appeared more than 50 million years ago. The rift uplifted Truth or Consequences’ landmark hill, and faults along the rift allow deep groundwater to flow freely to the surface without losing heat or minerals—producing pristine waters with temperatures ranging from 98 to 115 degrees, with trace elements of 38 different minerals. The pH of the water is 7, or neutral. 21 day soaking plan May Cure “Whatever Ails You” With almost 2,700 parts per million of assorted minerals, these thermal springs constitute some of the most heavily mineralized water in the United States." This basically spells very hard water that could lay a serious coating down on rocks that it contacts. Guessing this is a mineral coating on Lake Mead's bluffs: Thanks for posting this! I'm not a geologist...or any kind of "...ist"! I'm a half-breed country boy learning as I go (I can say that because I grew up on the outskirts of the city...but I'm all country at heart! LOL). The river I "float" is the Cheyenne River. The rocks are coated in the same type of coating as described. Which now that you pointed out what it's caused from, makes sense. The Cheyenne is a major irrigation source for property all along the river...and it makes sense the "mineral rich" water would be seriously good for crops. |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 19, 2022 15:08:36 GMT -5
jasoninsd for instance Lake Falcon stays 20 to 40 feet low. It hasn't filled in many years. This exposes rocks on the stepped lake shores over thousands of acres. The rain is acidic enough to dissolve that alkaline coating over the years so that the rock's 'skin' can be seen. This leaves a small percentage of the exposed rocks 'readable'. You may find after a serious flood(like that monster that just hit the Yellowstone River)exposes new rock from deeper down that does not have the white coating. I was curious if the rains that flooded south Montana flooded your Cheyanne River. I think the Yellowstone just got turned over like no other time in recent history. The rock hunters should be having a field day finding Montana agates and wood. Maybe you find Montana agate near your home.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 19, 2022 16:15:43 GMT -5
jasoninsd for instance Lake Falcon stays 20 to 40 feet low. It hasn't filled in many years. This exposes rocks on the stepped lake shores over thousands of acres. The rain is acidic enough to dissolve that alkaline coating over the years so that the rock's 'skin' can be seen. This leaves a small percentage of the exposed rocks 'readable'. You may find after a serious flood(like that monster that just hit the Yellowstone River)exposes new rock from deeper down that does not have the white coating. I was curious if the rains that flooded south Montana flooded your Cheyanne River. I think the Yellowstone just got turned over like no other time in recent history. The rock hunters should be having a field day finding Montana agates and wood. Maybe you find Montana agate near your home. The Yellowstone flood didn't affect the Cheyenne at all. I think we'd need a serious amount of snow one winter to cause a massive flow in the spring melt to kick over some new rocks! Sadly...the first thing I thought of when I saw all the news clips of the flooding was, "Oooh! I bet there's gonna be a lotta cool rocks showing up now!" |
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Post by jamesp on Jul 20, 2022 1:31:27 GMT -5
I see, the Cheyenne must dance to snow melt jasoninsd. However with the crazy monsoon rains this year don't be surprised ! Betting that the Yellowstone will be loaded with treasures. Unfortunately including asphalt nuggets ! Man that river got ripped a new one ! The Flint River is close to my home and it just hit a new 10 year low for a few days 2 weeks ago. Me and BIL set up to clean out the arrowheads but 2 inches of rain hit the night before our expedition and refilled it dang it. Freaky weather patterns I tell you. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 20, 2022 18:36:03 GMT -5
I think we only had one batch of storms that messed with the water level in the Cheyenne...but quickly went back down.
Yeah...I was shocked when I saw the road damage the Yellowstone did this summer. I totally get that it destroyed numerous human-made structures...but I'm usually in awe when it comes to "natural disasters"...because it's just God, Mother Nature, the Universe reminding us who's actually in charge!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 21, 2022 6:20:18 GMT -5
I think we only had one batch of storms that messed with the water level in the Cheyenne...but quickly went back down. Yeah...I was shocked when I saw the road damage the Yellowstone did this summer. I totally get that it destroyed numerous human-made structures...but I'm usually in awe when it comes to "natural disasters"...because it's just God, Mother Nature, the Universe reminding us who's actually in charge! Check out the Yangtze River in China Jason. Now that is a big river having a big flood. Man manhandling these rivers with their dams is being tamed by mother nature... Crazy world, either the rivers want to dry up or wash everything down stream. Hey, if the weather patterns are going to be like this then take advantage of the newly exposed treasures ! Especially the geological ones. |
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Post by quartzilla on Jul 28, 2022 17:08:32 GMT -5
Looks very similar to the petrified palm root material found in the Kramer Hills.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 31, 2022 13:28:45 GMT -5
Looks very similar to the petrified palm root material found in the Kramer Hills. That would be no surprise quartzilla. There was such a broad range of diversity of plant life in the past. Palms were notoriously diverse with a wide range of variability. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 31, 2022 14:29:23 GMT -5
Looks very similar to the petrified palm root material found in the Kramer Hills. Yes, it does. We've collected petifrified palm at the Kramer Hills as well. Also similar found at the El Paso mountains (California), which is a bit farther west and north from Kramer Hills. That area is now off limits to collecting. But especially with gas prices being what they are, we prefer to collect closer to home. We've not been in a while, but we like to go to an area off Indian Pass Road, in the Picacho Recreation area. This is in extreme South-eastern California, the north side of I-8, exit at Ogilby Road. There we find beautifully patterned and extremely hard petrified palm bog - some with included snail shells! - as well as some nice yellow jasper. Here's a link to a blogspot (not mine) on someone's trip to the area. good-times-rollin.blogspot.com/2014/02/indian-pass-road-to-picacho-state.html?m=1A beautiful area. You can be camped out there, not far off the road, for a week at a time, and you may only see a handful of people in that time. There are even wild burros in the area! One thing I should mention. A Jeep would be the preferred vehicle, a short wheelbase, not a long truck with an 8 foot bed. We have been both down, and up the "road," and I use the term loosely, which basically follows a creek bed down the hill, with its soft sand, and twists and turns. It is my understanding, that the road down the hill, has not had any kind on maintenance on it over the years, since it was first scratched out. However, the upper section does get graded periodically. |
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