notjustone
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Post by notjustone on May 8, 2017 11:55:17 GMT -5
yepper and with 4 barrels now I might be able to get a full load for the uv-10 every other week. I'm running the unsorted sic in them and it is working well. Graded grits for coarse is useless. Tumbler breaks it down to fine in a few days anyway if it's not washing down. Glad it's working for you. With all that free grit you can save a lot of money. Not so cheap for us civilans. what kind of barrels on the rotary ? 8" pvc 2@7 inches long, 1@6" , 1@8" long. at 37 rpm. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/78459/another-alternative-barrel
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Post by notjustone on May 8, 2017 11:00:37 GMT -5
loving it running ao80 for a few days straight to ao polish. no ceramics just nice and full with a good mix of sizes. Are you noticing any bowl wear using the 80 ? I am going to try it in the gy roc when I get things going . I don't know I'm not seeing black chunks or anything. it does look hazy after the ao-80 full of fine scratches. so I would imagine that it is wearing the barrel. but ive not run any other abrasive to compare it to.
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Post by notjustone on May 8, 2017 10:30:48 GMT -5
Very nicely done and super polish . Glad you are likin the UV 10 . loving it running ao80 for a few days straight to ao polish. no ceramics just nice and full with a good mix of sizes.
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Post by notjustone on May 8, 2017 10:20:56 GMT -5
Well done notjustone. And you rounded them with I home made rotary I believe. yepper and with 4 barrels now I might be able to get a full load for the uv-10 every other week. I'm running the unsorted sic in them and it is working well.
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Post by notjustone on May 8, 2017 7:51:46 GMT -5
ok whats left box 3? if so ill take it.
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Post by notjustone on May 6, 2017 12:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by notjustone on May 6, 2017 11:16:07 GMT -5
if I were to do the 5 foot pipe I would put a bell reducer on it with a pipe plug drilled out to create an orifice. while the flame will not burn back all the way to the hose it can burn back into a pipe that is wide open like that when it has low fuel pressre or backpressure. an orifice creates an area where if there is some backpressure which forces oxy in it will burn out and starve itself. when you light your torch and don't have enough gas it pops as it burns up air in the line and goes out. but since you don't have your oxy on it just pops starves and goes out good example of what happens when there is air fuel mixture.
I would not call it an air injection hole or some idiot will hook up his compressor wide open, blow embers out all over his family while they were enjoying a pleasant night making smores.
not to mention what happens when john q redneck doesn't pull that pipe after the fire is lit. builds the mother of all fires to impress bobbie jo redneck. after a certain amount of time bobbie jo is impressed. they decide to pull hot pipe and put the contraption away for the night. john burns his hand on hot pipe then sues for lack of spousal attention cause he burnt her favorite fingering finger?
sounds funny but I know a local stihl chainsaw dealer that used to sell log splitters that doesn't anymore after a customer cut his fingers off. so the guy sued the manufacturer and the distributer. the distributer with less money for lawyers ended up wth the claim. pain and suffering, loss of present and predicted future income since customer could no longer type efficiently. and believe it or not alienation of spousal attention (or something like that) because his wife left him while he was out of work.
this is one of them cases where unless you can get ul listing so that your insurance will back you in the event of a claim. it probably wouldn't be worth the profit offset created by the addition of such accessory. just weld in a bung call it a secondary drain in case bottom drain is full of debris and let the customers do the redneck engineering.
ps uber cool would be one full of lava rock for them city dwellers with lack of firewood.
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Post by notjustone on May 6, 2017 9:43:47 GMT -5
Hey, what is Melissa doing out west ? Are you near Las Vegas ? I know you are. You lucky. Have fun. be safe. Ship the loot via Flat rate box as captbob mentioned. Works well. I shipped back like 30 last time, 60 another. Got em all back. But worried a bit. I did MFRB's, figured they would stay together better. ***Important-Used a heavy trash bag in each one as most of the boxes blew out. I travelled west in Honda Civic white trash style lol with minimal capacity. You probably flew. Don't sink the Leer jet for Pete's sake. Bet it is some kinda beautiful out there. I want to pet James' dog Jax. Love them tough cattle dogs, man they are tough customers. I think I've gotten Con convinced to let me ship at least some home. I've accumulated quite a few!! We are off reading it in a Chevy Malibu 😂😂 well you know if con wont let you mail the goodies home you could always package them up in a med flat rate box and send them to my house. be a shame to just leave them out there on the ground. just tryin to help ya out mel lol. ide even pay the shipping cause I'm that kind of guy lol. jk
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Post by notjustone on May 6, 2017 9:33:47 GMT -5
You should go with a gas pressure regulator. Normally however with natural gas, in residental, secondary regulators are not installed behind the secondary regulator already installed ahead of the meter. As far as the regulator question , appliance regulators control gas pressure under flow conditions , but under no flow conditions the output pressure will be the same as the input . Line regulators are positive shut off regulators , When the gas flow is shut off , the output will not climb to match the input , but will remain at the set value . If a line regulator is installed I would always recommend one with an OPD ( over pressure device. ) Personally I would suggest hooking customers up with outside vendors for their fire lighting needs. Too many folks don't have a clue how to light a fire without singed eyebrows, but they all have the phone number of a personal injury attorney. I appreciate your knowledge on 'how to' spirit. I appreciated your warnings Lee. It makes so much sense to let the customer take on the liability and install his own Lee. It takes some extra apparatus to accomplish a safe gas feed spirit as you described. The main problem for the customer is actually installing the welded fitting as shown in the photo above. It takes me 3 minutes and $1 to weld that fitting in at the appropriate location at assembly. If I do not specify in writing that the fitting(of some sort) is a gas portal then I assume I am free of liability. If I do not or cannot mention it then how can it help my sales.... I could say that compressed air could be pumped through the portal to assist starting fire. Not totally effective. But exposes it's presence. Or "Gas portal installed to assist customer installed gas feed". But that may pull me into liability as "part of the system". And I get pulled in by insinuation when my customer blows himself up. But by the same token, I have torched holes in the bottom of the pedestal and bowl to allow customer to install his own gas line. Per his specifications. And said modification was documented in the form of an email. Which could pull me into liable. Kinda falls into the category of the $5 dollar part that can be replaced in a semi-auto gun to convert it fully automatic. Thanks for the feedback. that looks like a rainy day drain for when you leave the cover off. hint hint.
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Post by notjustone on May 6, 2017 9:26:33 GMT -5
ok ill throw in my 2 cents. the only time I have ever seen burnback through a hose is when using an oxy act torch. reason being the fuel side would need oxygen in the line to burn back. as we all know sometimes if you have a leaky seat on your tip, or sometimes get the tip to close the higher pressure oxy can migrate back into the lower pressure gas line. in a regular gas line there is no oxygen in the line to allow it to burn back through the line. so when said line has a leak it will burn outside the pipe when it reaches the oxy in the atmosphere. at work in our core room we have 10 hot box core machines running natural gas. if the operator says hes smelling gas ill look for a large leak visible to the naked eye. if I determine its not a huge leak that's going to cause a massive ball of flame i then grab the lighting wand the operator uses to light the box and start walking the line. ill do you 1 better look up hot tapping or welding a crack on live natural gas lines on google. even when you see tanker truck or tank explosions they burn predictably outside the tank until the heat and pressure causes a rupture.
now that the burnback has been addressed I would be more worried about a hose connection being that close. causing the hose to get soft and separate from the hose fitting. or a coal to come out and burn a hole in the hose. or joe q redneck putting the short line off his gas grill on there with the tank sitting a foot way. while you may never see a full on tank explosion you would probably see lawsuits related more to incidental injury (tripping over the line and landing in hot firepit) or just common stupidity.
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Post by notjustone on May 2, 2017 20:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by notjustone on May 2, 2017 11:39:26 GMT -5
thanks guys its the big 44 for me today.
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 22:30:02 GMT -5
I have found a lot of it in the creek near my house and along the shore of the lake, that came from Cleveland glass company that made window glass a couple towns over. most of it is black or has that green tint since they didn't do colored glass. I also found some on the backside of a hill at work that must have been from the old coal furnaces because our slag now days is grey and loaded with bigger gas bubbles.
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 13:24:50 GMT -5
easy killer we don't want this to end up in that other section.
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 12:32:47 GMT -5
how yours are how they should be also your end stop rollers look to be to far in there should be some space otherwise gas buildup could bulge the end of the barrels and force the barrel to climb the stops. if you have both barrels on. this an ar-12 but the concept is the same.
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 12:19:27 GMT -5
There are already end-stop rollers that came with the unit. They are fixed in place, but do oscillate somewhat, which I think is desirable. What I think is happening is that as the barrel rubs against this end-stop roller, friction causes the rubber to heat as well as abrade off. This results in increased friction as the rubber heats and gums up. Eventually I think it bound enough to jump the end-stop roller, when it then rode up against the pulley which, being metal, with a sharper edge, shaved the end off of it until it bound completely causing the motor to shut down. theres a slot cut about halfway point of the rollers that engages in the metal frame. your rollers are to close cause they are not in right
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 9:38:11 GMT -5
could mount a small roller on that end to act as an end stop. my homemade tumbler has a chunks of plastic that my barrels hit and keep them from walking to close to the bearings.
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 9:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by notjustone on Apr 30, 2017 6:21:23 GMT -5
should wife falls in love with anything she can see a flashlight through.
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