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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 23, 2022 9:00:29 GMT -5
At the risk of being the sap I am, I just have to say- Y'all have really pulled through as a community for all the members facing difficult times. You all are the BEST! Really, you guys are the greatest. Thank you for warming this cynic's heart. RTH ROCKS!
eta “Beneath every cynic there's a frustrated romantic.”
― Peter Bishop
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Dec 23, 2022 9:26:45 GMT -5
Being a total sap myself, I unabashedly agree! RTH is special. Who would ever think that an on-line community could be as tight-knit as this group is? It gives me the warm fuzzies knowing that we can care about people we've never met in person.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Dec 23, 2022 9:50:30 GMT -5
It starts from the top down. You long standing members are very interactive and personable with characters abound.
I just came to show off some rocks, didn't think I'd ACTUALLY be emotionally invested in others affairs.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 23, 2022 9:56:39 GMT -5
It starts from the top down. You long standing members are very interactive and personable with characters abound. I just came to show off some rocks, didn't think I'd ACTUALLY be emotionally invested in others affairs. Anyone and everyone is welcome.
I tried to send you a PM but for some reason I was unable. Do you have it blocked in your settings?
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Post by Son Of Beach on Dec 23, 2022 10:01:39 GMT -5
It starts from the top down. You long standing members are very interactive and personable with characters abound. I just came to show off some rocks, didn't think I'd ACTUALLY be emotionally invested in others affairs. Anyone and everyone is welcome.
I tried to send you a PM but for some reason I was unable. Do you have it blocked in your settings?
Don't think so, I just looked and I didn't see a setting for it. I was messaging a user last week...so I dunno.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 23, 2022 10:05:45 GMT -5
Anyone and everyone is welcome.
I tried to send you a PM but for some reason I was unable. Do you have it blocked in your settings?
Don't think so, I just looked and I didn't see a setting for it. I was messaging a user last week...so I dunno. I'll try again.
eta Well, it still doesn't work for some Proboards reason.
Success!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 23, 2022 11:13:02 GMT -5
I spent way too many decades of my life being a cynic...and suppressing that inner "sap" feeling I knew was in there...way deep down! LOL - I've noticed over the last couple years, I'm more sappy than I've ever been in my life. I've reached a point in my life I really don't care what people think of me...I'm going to be who I am. If someone's ok with who I am, then great. If they're aren't ok with who I am, then they don't really know me! LOL I'm with y'all that this community has that "family" vibe...and thankfully I don't feel like the stereotypical "red-headed stepchild"! (Maybe the crazy uncle once in awhile! LOL) I do believe the thoughts and prayers from the members (for rockpickerforever, stonemon, beefjello, & Pat) have been heard by the big guy...whether someone believes that to be God or "the Universe". I'm with Chad Son Of Beach. I really didn't expect to have this community become such a part of my life. My wife has never been on the forum...yet she knows what's going on in everybody's life...and knows who I'm talking about when I say their names.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 23, 2022 12:15:31 GMT -5
Looks like it will be an unusual Christmas for a lot of us this year. My father just passed away a few days ago. Not a surprise. He was diabetic and refused to stop eating sweets like they were going out of style. And when we got him an exercycle to keep his strength up he refused to use it and would get angry if we tried to push him.
His girlfriend left to go see some friends at the restaurant and he stayed home. While she was gone he apparently fell hard cutting his arm and hitting his head really hard. So when they found his there was blood and vomit everywhere. They took him to the hospital, then from there they put him in what my brother called a hospice and my mom said was a group home. So no idea. He hates doctors and hospitals though and was trying to pull everything out so they sedated him heavily and likely restrained him. I knew he would not survive long like that. I started getting messages a few days ago that he had passed away.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 23, 2022 12:20:24 GMT -5
Looks like it will be an unusual Christmas for a lot of us this year. My father just passed away a few days ago. Not a surprise. He was diabetic and refused to stop eating sweets like they were going out of style. And when we got him an exercycle to keep his strength up he refused to use it and would get angry if we tried to push him. His girlfriend left to go see some friends at the restaurant and he stayed home. While she was gone he apparently fell hard cutting his arm and hitting his head really hard. So when they found his there was blood and vomit everywhere. They took him to the hospital, then from there they put him in what my brother called a hospice and my mom said was a group home. So no idea. He hates doctors and hospitals though and was trying to pull everything out so they sedated him heavily and likely restrained him. I knew he would not survive long like that. I started getting messages a few days ago that he had passed away. I'm sorry, James. You have my condolences
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 23, 2022 12:20:59 GMT -5
Looks like it will be an unusual Christmas for a lot of us this year. My father just passed away a few days ago. Not a surprise. He was diabetic and refused to stop eating sweets like they were going out of style. And when we got him an exercycle to keep his strength up he refused to use it and would get angry if we tried to push him. His girlfriend left to go see some friends at the restaurant and he stayed home. While she was gone he apparently fell hard cutting his arm and hitting his head really hard. So when they found his there was blood and vomit everywhere. They took him to the hospital, then from there they put him in what my brother called a hospice and my mom said was a group home. So no idea. He hates doctors and hospitals though and was trying to pull everything out so they sedated him heavily and likely restrained him. I knew he would not survive long like that. I started getting messages a few days ago that he had passed away. I'm sorry, James. You have my condolences Thank you.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 23, 2022 12:25:31 GMT -5
Looks like it will be an unusual Christmas for a lot of us this year. My father just passed away a few days ago. Not a surprise. He was diabetic and refused to stop eating sweets like they were going out of style. And when we got him an exercycle to keep his strength up he refused to use it and would get angry if we tried to push him. His girlfriend left to go see some friends at the restaurant and he stayed home. While she was gone he apparently fell hard cutting his arm and hitting his head really hard. So when they found his there was blood and vomit everywhere. They took him to the hospital, then from there they put him in what my brother called a hospice and my mom said was a group home. So no idea. He hates doctors and hospitals though and was trying to pull everything out so they sedated him heavily and likely restrained him. I knew he would not survive long like that. I started getting messages a few days ago that he had passed away. James, I'm so sorry to hear this. It sounds like your family gave him the tools he needed, but apparently didn't want. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 23, 2022 14:41:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry, James. You have my condolences Thank you. So sorry to hear about this, James. You can love them, but you are not allowed to make sure they stay healthy. I definitely can relate, James. My morbidly obese diabetic brother has been non-compliant with his Kaiser doctor about doing labs, drinking until he is drunk, or even doing any tiny amount of exercise. Thinking of you and sending prayers for you and your father, James.
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Post by stonemon on Dec 23, 2022 17:13:17 GMT -5
I have developed too much tremor to type. Just know all the kindness and love on this page echos right back at you. Hope I get to see you in the new year!
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Post by mohs on Dec 23, 2022 17:41:40 GMT -5
Hi vegasjames James it sound like w/ your medical interests and your Dad's medical stubbornness that you two took different paths in life ? maybe i'm off base ? just want to express my condolences best way I know how Ed
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 23, 2022 17:47:53 GMT -5
Looks like it will be an unusual Christmas for a lot of us this year. My father just passed away a few days ago. Not a surprise. He was diabetic and refused to stop eating sweets like they were going out of style. And when we got him an exercycle to keep his strength up he refused to use it and would get angry if we tried to push him. His girlfriend left to go see some friends at the restaurant and he stayed home. While she was gone he apparently fell hard cutting his arm and hitting his head really hard. So when they found his there was blood and vomit everywhere. They took him to the hospital, then from there they put him in what my brother called a hospice and my mom said was a group home. So no idea. He hates doctors and hospitals though and was trying to pull everything out so they sedated him heavily and likely restrained him. I knew he would not survive long like that. I started getting messages a few days ago that he had passed away. James, I'm so sorry to hear this. It sounds like your family gave him the tools he needed, but apparently didn't want. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family. Thank you. Yes, we was stubborn on steroids, which led to us not talking the first time for over 22 years. This last time he pissed me off was back in April, and we have not spoken since. It is a shame, but unfortunately that is the way it was. I jsut wish he could have passed away at home instead of where he did.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 23, 2022 17:48:53 GMT -5
So sorry to hear about this, James. You can love them, but you are not allowed to make sure they stay healthy. I definitely can relate, James. My morbidly obese diabetic brother has been non-compliant with his Kaiser doctor about doing labs, drinking until he is drunk, or even doing any tiny amount of exercise. Thinking of you and sending prayers for you and your father, James. Thank you.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 23, 2022 18:04:28 GMT -5
Hi vegasjames James it sound like w/ your medical interests and your Dad's medical stubbornness that you two took different paths in life ? maybe i'm off base ? just want to express my condolences best way I know how Ed You pretty much got it. It is funny because my mom always commented on how much we were alike. Looked alike, same gestures, same height (my brother is short compared to me), both like to invent, both highly science oriented, etc. The big difference between the two of us is that he had a stubborn streak to no end and would never admit to being wrong no matter how much evidence you presented to the contrary. This also led to things always had to be his way or else, and he had absolutely no patience. For instance, we finally started talking again after 22 years because he was in a Court battle with some adopted and foster kids trying to illegally take over the trust he oversaw regarding the ranch. The stress led to several strokes. I started to go back to Reno to help out even though I would not benefit at all like my brother would. So I was teaching my dad how to act in Court, showing him what can and cannot be done, speaking for him in Court since the strokes affected his speech, etc. I found a way to win the case by getting the trust dismissed since I was never listed on the trust and was supposed to be. That would have killed the other sides case. So I told my dad and explained the judge has to drop the lawsuit, then you can sue them for abuse of process, which will pay for operation of the remaining ranch as an herb farm my brother wanted to do. My dad thought is was great and agreed. So we got to Court and out of the clear blue he tells the judge "oh the hell with it, give it them. If I keep this up it will kill me". So in less than one minute he threw it all away when he had it won wasting my time, my brother's time and his girlfriend's time who was also helping. Then when we and the judge tried to get him to change his mind he threw a temper tantrum and tried to roll out of the Court in his wheelchair. Pissed a lot of people who were working hard to help him. His last hissy fit is why we have not spoke since April. He had to do things his way come hell or high water, and he did not care how it affected anyone around him. That included his health. Therefore, I stopped trying. It was kind of ironic though as he was proud of what I had accomplished and all the people I have been able to help and reverse their deadly diseases, but since it was not his idea he had no interest.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 23, 2022 19:21:53 GMT -5
Hi vegasjames James it sound like w/ your medical interests and your Dad's medical stubbornness that you two took different paths in life ? maybe i'm off base ? just want to express my condolences best way I know how Ed You pretty much got it. It is funny because my mom always commented on how much we were alike. Looked alike, same gestures, same height (my brother is short compared to me), both like to invent, both highly science oriented, etc. The big difference between the two of us is that he had a stubborn streak to no end and would never admit to being wrong no matter how much evidence you presented to the contrary. This also led to things always had to be his way or else, and he had absolutely no patience. For instance, we finally started talking again after 22 years because he was in a Court battle with some adopted and foster kids trying to illegally take over the trust he oversaw regarding the ranch. The stress led to several strokes. I started to go back to Reno to help out even though I would not benefit at all like my brother would. So I was teaching my dad how to act in Court, showing him what can and cannot be done, speaking for him in Court since the strokes affected his speech, etc. I found a way to win the case by getting the trust dismissed since I was never listed on the trust and was supposed to be. That would have killed the other sides case. So I told my dad and explained the judge has to drop the lawsuit, then you can sue them for abuse of process, which will pay for operation of the remaining ranch as an herb farm my brother wanted to do. My dad thought is was great and agreed. So we got to Court and out of the clear blue he tells the judge "oh the hell with it, give it them. If I keep this up it will kill me". So in less than one minute he threw it all away when he had it won wasting my time, my brother's time and his girlfriend's time who was also helping. Then when we and the judge tried to get him to change his mind he threw a temper tantrum and tried to roll out of the Court in his wheelchair. Pissed a lot of people who were working hard to help him. His last hissy fit is why we have not spoke since April. He had to do things his way come hell or high water, and he did not care how it affected anyone around him. That included his health. Therefore, I stopped trying. It was kind of ironic though as he was proud of what I had accomplished and all the people I have been able to help and reverse their deadly diseases, but since it was not his idea he had no interest. Dang, what a contentious relationship. Right before my brother committed suicide, we were not getting along- not speaking. Afterwards, of course, it tore me up. But, I learned since that people who know they are dying will treat their loved ones really awfully. I could go into it, but I'm not suggesting it is the case with you. I just think you must feel very torn. I mean, he was your brother. You have my sympathy. If that was a little out of line, I'm sorry.
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Post by mohs on Dec 23, 2022 20:28:42 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me how irrational and spiteful a person can get. Even to their own selves. Financially, psychologically, to those close to them ! Damn the torpedoes. Take everyone down with them.
Tela as good point. They are done with life. Some sort of perceived bitterness perhaps? Many are just living on some ideal. My way!
That can be positive. When its get out of balance. Ugly !
Doestoesky is the guide, Especially in the novel, "Underground Man” Challenging psychological philosophical study. The main character will persist in his way- even to spite his own nose.
As mentioned there is a heroic aspect to that attitude. It may even be genetically selected? But when it go off the rails- pure ugly. I’ve seen my fair share -up close too
Mohs got the good gene ha
Like the Italians say:
così buono- buono a nulla
capiesh ?
mostly
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Dec 23, 2022 22:46:07 GMT -5
vegasjames I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. It was a difficult relationship it sounds like, but he was still your father and somewhere there was love. Prayers for you and your family.
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