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Post by snowmom on Apr 20, 2015 5:49:58 GMT -5
Are there no water reservoirs in California........... ? Mono Lake, diamond valley lake which dwarfs Mathews are all important. All lakes and all reservoirs lower level than in memory. We are getting tickets for not watering lawns... idiotic bureaucracy run amok or are they worried about fire and see this as a way to help prevent it? (My guess is the first- we can't have an unkempt lawn now, can we? it might be unattractive and bring neighborhood real estate values down ).
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Post by Rockhobbit on Apr 20, 2015 9:38:20 GMT -5
I may be ignorant buy why don't they just build de-salting plants and use ocean water until the drought is over? I know it will cost millions but they will loose that much if they run out of water! Sheri
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 20, 2015 9:56:02 GMT -5
I may be ignorant buy why don't they just build de-salting plants and use ocean water until the drought is over? I know it will cost millions but they will loose that much if they run out of water! Sheri That was my Pa' In Laws job in the Navy,de-salting ocean water to fresh on their ship........The military does it all the time...
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 10:16:37 GMT -5
snowmom, we definitely are not suffering from drought so far this year, but we are under water restrictions. There was a lot of hooplah with the GA/'Bama/Florida "water war," so West Point Lake dam (and other areas) are required to release water which has led to the restrictions. Even though we live in the county, we have water with the city. On certain days of the week, homes with an even number address may use water outdoors at certain times of the day, and vice versa for odd numbered addresses. Fines are pretty stiff if you get busted.
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Post by spiritstone on Apr 20, 2015 11:17:14 GMT -5
I may be ignorant buy why don't they just build de-salting plants and use ocean water until the drought is over? I know it will cost millions but they will loose that much if they run out of water! Sheri Or....Just add water to make water? LoL
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 20, 2015 11:47:43 GMT -5
Or....Just add water to make water? LoL That's too funny, spiritstone!! Looks like something the military would provide with those delicious MRE's (vomitus).
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Post by parfive on Apr 20, 2015 12:50:36 GMT -5
Found one . . . almost. Wikipedia: Lake Oroville is a reservoir formed by the Oroville Dam impounding the Feather River, located in Butte County, northern California.
It is the second-largest reservoir in California, after Shasta Lake.
Completed in 1968, Oroville Dam is the tallest earthen dam located in the United States, measuring over 770 feet high and 6,920 feet across. The dam was the largest earth-fill dam in the world until succeeded by Aswan High Dam in Egypt. It was built by the California Department of Water Resources as part of the California State Water Project. www.google.com/search?biw=1056&bih=948&tbm=isch&q=lake+oroville+water+level+2015
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 20, 2015 15:55:29 GMT -5
I may be ignorant buy why don't they just build de-salting plants and use ocean water until the drought is over? I know it will cost millions but they will loose that much if they run out of water! Sheri Several reasons. One reason is where to put the desalination plant. Beach front property is a premium and nobody wants a big ugly desalination plant devaluing their property. Secondly, desalination of seawater is very energy intensive. With current technology to build plants and run them large enough to even make a dent in California's drought problem would be cost prohibitive. Also consider the fact that California is desperate for more money to begin with. And even if they get the water who will use it? Will it just get wasted or promote more growth taxing the water supply again like what is going on here in Las Vegas?
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Post by Rockhobbit on Apr 20, 2015 16:09:11 GMT -5
Could the plants be used to irregate? Sheri
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Post by orrum on Apr 20, 2015 19:11:45 GMT -5
Shoot I been to New Iberia La. in July!!!! Set up a giant dehumidifier and get lots of water. It was so hot n humid down there that a feller tole me if he owned Louisiana and Hell he would rent Louisiana out an live in Hell cause it had to be cooler! LOL
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 20, 2015 22:22:07 GMT -5
Could the plants be used to irregate? Sheri Yes, but again keep in mind the amount of water that would be required for irrigation and the cost of producing that water. It would force produce prices way up.
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Post by stephan on Apr 22, 2015 23:43:17 GMT -5
Are there no water reservoirs in California........... ? Yes, but it needs to rain to fill them. We are in the fourth year of below-average rain and snow. Last year was about 1/3 of normal, this year somewhat better (a whopping 12 inches -- for the season -- and we're unlikely to see any more until November). As for the farmers: we grow a lot of food here, and many are growing very profitable crops that are not ideally suited to semi-arid conditions: almonds, stone-fruit, cotton (not food, I know, but a substantial part of the ag sector) and rice. Most of it went in when rainfall was good. Dairy production and raising the beef I like to eat have a pretty substantial water foot-print as well. And wine grapes and wine-making use quite a bit of water, too. About 80% of our water goes to agriculture, most of it to mega-farms. Nothing commie about it. Farming is big business. Research into breeding drought-tolerant crops is huge. Family farmers, by contrast, are hurting.
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Post by stephan on Apr 22, 2015 23:50:27 GMT -5
Could the plants be used to irregate? Sheri Yes, but again keep in mind the amount of water that would be required for irrigation and the cost of producing that water. It would force produce prices way up. And to desalinate all the water we need would produce an awful lot of brine, which is tricky to return to the oceans. It doesn't dilute quickly, and raises local salt concentrations to toxic levels.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 23, 2015 8:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Apr 23, 2015 8:27:52 GMT -5
Florida has many springs putting out over 30 million gallons per day(class 1 magnitude). They are starting to suffer from salt infiltration as water usage increases. Drawing down the water table excessively pulls salt water in to the aquifer. www.ocala.com/article/20120626/OPINION01/120629787?p=1&tc=pg
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Post by jamesp on Apr 23, 2015 8:41:08 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Apr 23, 2015 9:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by spiritstone on Apr 25, 2015 20:05:32 GMT -5
Cant say were dry now. 3 weeks of no moisture then this in 10 hrs today and still in a heavy snow fall warning. lol
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Post by parfive on Apr 28, 2015 2:54:03 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Apr 28, 2015 10:42:42 GMT -5
Yep, Lake Mead is #1 on biggest disaster list due to drought. It is a huge lake and serves the most desperate clients. Not to mention power generation. And water is needed for nuc power. Las Vegas in a bind.
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