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Post by glennz01 on Feb 10, 2016 21:41:15 GMT -5
I just got an old lortone 8 0r 10 lb tumbler that had a motor and everything... the motor did not have a cord however. I'm wondering if anyone has replaced a cord before and maybe has some pics of what it should look like when finished. if I get this working, I will have 5 tumblers although a few of them will be going in storage.
i will get a pic of the motor sometime hopefully soon.
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Post by jakesrocks on Feb 10, 2016 23:31:48 GMT -5
Are there stubs of wires left where they cut the cord ? If so, check the insulation on the stubs. Most tumblers use a heavy version of a 2 wire lamp cord. One side will have 1 or 2 raised ridges on it. The other won't. Buy a heavy lamp cord & look for the ridges on one wire. Ridges to ridges, no ridges to no ridges. Simple as that.
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Post by quartz on Feb 11, 2016 0:01:20 GMT -5
I've referbed a couple older Lortones, neither had the original motor. I do have an original one in the shop about the size of what you describe, picture would be most helpful. Unless as Don said, you have stub remnants.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 11, 2016 0:31:02 GMT -5
I've referbed a couple older Lortones, neither had the original motor. I do have an original one in the shop about the size of what you describe, picture would be most helpful. Unless as Don said, you have stub remnants. no stubs that I can see without opening the motor. If I have some time after completing a few tasks here i'll try to get a photo tonight. It mayn ot be the original motor ether
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Post by jerrys on Feb 12, 2016 12:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by quartz on Feb 12, 2016 23:27:37 GMT -5
Another good source of cords is ones from power strips, they seem to not last long and the cords are 14 ga., good enough to run any tumbler motor.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 12, 2016 23:35:25 GMT -5
I should be able to find one of those fairly easily... I used to have quite a few of them.. not sure if I do any more. I will have to get a pic of the motor... it seems more fit to run a saw... It is larger than my lortone 40# tumbler motor.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 13, 2016 9:37:54 GMT -5
I use extension cords and cut to length,fit the end with the plug and wire the other to the motor...Heavy duty with no worries.... For the smaller motors a lamp cord works great too,can buy them at any used stores for a few cents...
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Post by captbob on Feb 13, 2016 10:32:04 GMT -5
I will have to get a pic of the motor... it seems more fit to run a saw... It is larger than my lortone 40# tumbler motor. If it's that big of a motor, I'm sure it would do the job, but it may be over kill and cause you one heck on an electric bill. May be easier (better) to swap out motors depending on what you are dealing with here. Pictures will help.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 13, 2016 12:19:32 GMT -5
I will have to get a pic of the motor... it seems more fit to run a saw... It is larger than my lortone 40# tumbler motor. If it's that big of a motor, I'm sure it would do the job, but it may be over kill and cause you one heck on an electric bill. May be easier (better) to swap out motors depending on what you are dealing with here. Pictures will help. Yeah, I should be able to get photos tonight or tomarrow. I might be working a bit today since i'll be getting overtime wage all day.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 14, 2016 1:48:28 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 14, 2016 2:15:14 GMT -5
Cord connections will be under the cover plate with the Lubrication instructions. There might be wiring instructions on the inside of the cover. A 1/3hp capacitor start motor is enough to run most arbors or a saw up to 16 inches, more than enough for a tumbler.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 14, 2016 2:28:57 GMT -5
Cord connections will be under the cover plate with the Lubrication instructions. There might be wiring instructions on the inside of the cover. A 1/3hp capacitor start motor is enough to run most arbors or a saw up to 16 inches, more than enough for a tumbler. That is what I was thinking, If it works good I might just save it for a saw... my 40 lb tumbler has a 1/4hp motor I may see if I can get a trim saw blade to fit on the new saw seen in the photo... the guy that had the flat laps is going to get some new motors since they are wearing out
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 14, 2016 9:20:54 GMT -5
Yes sir,over kill for a tumbler........
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Post by quartz on Feb 14, 2016 11:37:26 GMT -5
Regarding the flat laps: It may not be the motors are "wearing out". We had one like what you show. It had a hard time getting started when we got it, the motor bushings were dry. Took the motor out, oiled it up and it ran fine.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 14, 2016 12:25:49 GMT -5
Regarding the flat laps: It may not be the motors are "wearing out". We had one like what you show. It had a hard time getting started when we got it, the motor bushings were dry. Took the motor out, oiled it up and it ran fine. I got the motors working, I was able to bring them home last night. I got it started by hand turning it (power off) one of the motors would become harder to turn in one part, the other is showing the same symptoms but not to the same extent. I told my boss about it since he knows a bit about motors and said the bearings or something may be going bad, and to write down the motor info and he'll order new ones. The really old looking machine is where it has the most problem turning by hand in one area. something is sticking but not sure what.
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Post by rochaura on Feb 15, 2016 8:16:21 GMT -5
In fact, motors do not wear out. They consist of one or more coils of wire wrapped around a core. If the wire is not broken the motor will run. Bushings or bearings can in theory wear out but I've never heard of that happening. If you are having hard staring or running, check the start capacitor and the load. Poor lubrication can increase the load beyond the motor capacity, but that is a huge motor for the task.
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Post by Intheswamp on Feb 15, 2016 9:18:59 GMT -5
I've got a 2-speed 1725/1140rpm 1/6-1/18hp motor running the Money Pit tumbler at the 1/18hp rating at low speed. It turns a 20 pound load with no problem and pulls a grunt over 2amps. I worked up a spreadsheet and it's costing me around $25 a month to run. The 1/3hp motor is way overkill. Btw, for the motor I used I used a computer power cord. I believe it was 16awg. A power strip cord would be heavier (not a bad thing). For the amp draw of my motor the 16awg is plenty heavy enough. Fossilman's idea of using pieces of extension cords is doable, too, and you can cut to length so the cord will reach from where you *want* to place the tumbler to the wall receptacle.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 15, 2016 9:59:26 GMT -5
I might use it to make a huge buffing wheel. its good for something. Not sure when i'll have time to tinker with it.
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Post by glennz01 on Feb 20, 2016 0:30:27 GMT -5
Well ive got one of the flat laps going, the other one needs a new motor to be operable (very noisy and seizes a few times) My 10 inch or whatever size saw it is works good. still need to look at the tumblers... the small one needs a new belt or something.
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