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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 10:16:53 GMT -5
I like to - periodically peruse Price's polished Polish pretties. PPPPPP Pendants May make a title to a small business...
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 10:22:55 GMT -5
The glass drills with less effort compared to agate Kevin. so it opens that door too. Melting glass pendants only requires a hole in the mold. Then tumble to make a professional looking finished hole. Or pre-drilling broken glass before tumbling.
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Post by captbob on Jan 19, 2018 10:26:25 GMT -5
Maybe doing the coarse tumble then drill before moving on. The finishing stages should clean up the hole.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 19, 2018 11:20:51 GMT -5
Now I can see them all. They are all great, love the pastels. Actually I love them all. Again, great job! Forgot to reduce file size Alison so they may have loaded slowly. The iPad has big file photos. One of the stores has 5 more of the pastel swirl Polish vases. Maybe they will sit on shelf long enough for price to drop. That piece precision tapered from very thin at top to quite thick at bottom. Blower must have stretched the open end at a higher rate. The Polish glass is exceptional. Hope they bring more in. Perhaps you have experience in collecting Polish made ? Sadly, I don't have any Polish pieces, but trust me they are on my one day wish list to inherit. They all got handed down to other family members, that and the Bohemian pieces. Which I remind my aunts every now and then how much I love them. My great-great grandmas 8" clear as can be crystal ball that she used for fortune telling is something I've been coveting since a wee lass. (Maybe, this is where I get my love of glass from?)
Those are going to look amazing in jewelry-I Cant wait to see what they look like in a silver setting. and I Cant wait to see what you do with the Kiln
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 12:07:30 GMT -5
Forgot to reduce file size Alison so they may have loaded slowly. The iPad has big file photos. One of the stores has 5 more of the pastel swirl Polish vases. Maybe they will sit on shelf long enough for price to drop. That piece precision tapered from very thin at top to quite thick at bottom. Blower must have stretched the open end at a higher rate. The Polish glass is exceptional. Hope they bring more in. Perhaps you have experience in collecting Polish made ? Sadly, I don't have any Polish pieces, but trust me they are on my one day wish list to inherit. They all got handed down to other family members, that and the Bohemian pieces. Which I remind my aunts every now and then how much I love them. My great-great grandmas 8" clear as can be crystal ball that she used for fortune telling is something I've been coveting since a wee lass. (Maybe, this is where I get my love of glass from?)
Those are going to look amazing in jewelry-I Cant wait to see what they look like in a silver setting. and I Cant wait to see what you do with the Kiln
Mystical crystal balls ? Check this lady out. You gotta be beating them away with sticks. Do you know how long it takes to anneal an 8 inch ball of glass ? Our fathers and grandfathers were a brave lot during the industrial age. Mad men and would try anything back in those days. www.cmog.org/collection/exhibitions/mirror-to-discoveryIn March 1934, Corning poured a 200-inch disk, but part of the mold broke loose during the pouring, ruining the blank. McCauley decided to continue with annealing (a process required to slowly cool the glass) as an experiment. That imperfect disk has become an iconic object in the collection of The Corning Museum of Glass. It has been suspended in the same spot for 60 years, since the Museum opened to the public in 1951. The second attempt at pouring was successful, and after a year’s annealing time, the disk was finished and taken by train to California. The creation of the disk, and its journey across an economically depressed nation, captured the public’s attention. Famed radio commentator Lowell Thomas called the pouring of the disk “the greatest item of interest to the civilized world in 25 years, not excluding the World War.”
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Post by MsAli on Jan 19, 2018 12:40:17 GMT -5
Sadly, I don't have any Polish pieces, but trust me they are on my one day wish list to inherit. They all got handed down to other family members, that and the Bohemian pieces. Which I remind my aunts every now and then how much I love them. My great-great grandmas 8" clear as can be crystal ball that she used for fortune telling is something I've been coveting since a wee lass. (Maybe, this is where I get my love of glass from?)
Those are going to look amazing in jewelry-I Cant wait to see what they look like in a silver setting. and I Cant wait to see what you do with the Kiln
Mystical crystal balls ? Check this lady out. You gotta be beating them away with sticks. Do you know how long it takes to anneal an 8 inch ball of glass ? Our fathers and grandfathers were a brave lot during the industrial age. Mad men and would try anything back in those days. www.cmog.org/collection/exhibitions/mirror-to-discoveryIn March 1934, Corning poured a 200-inch disk, but part of the mold broke loose during the pouring, ruining the blank. McCauley decided to continue with annealing (a process required to slowly cool the glass) as an experiment. That imperfect disk has become an iconic object in the collection of The Corning Museum of Glass. It has been suspended in the same spot for 60 years, since the Museum opened to the public in 1951. The second attempt at pouring was successful, and after a year’s annealing time, the disk was finished and taken by train to California. The creation of the disk, and its journey across an economically depressed nation, captured the public’s attention. Famed radio commentator Lowell Thomas called the pouring of the disk “the greatest item of interest to the civilized world in 25 years, not excluding the World War.”
On my mom's side I come from a long line of bohemian gypsies. How they made that ball back then and the stands it sits in, I have no idea. It really is incredible how flawless it is. My aunt in New Jersey has it now and I am next in line to inherit it. What is really cool about the glass is they used Pyrex glass to make it. (Another thing I collect) Not the largest anymore, but it is really an incredible telescope and still in use today.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 12:52:39 GMT -5
Maybe doing the coarse tumble then drill before moving on. The finishing stages should clean up the hole. Been doing 2 steps on the glass in the rotary, one with the bulk siC that is fast and rough. Close to final shape. Then a slow tumble in a smaller slower barrel with about SiC 220 like you mention. Probably best to drill the hole after the rough run and before the 220 run to avoid breakage. Even the gentle SiC 220 run takes a good bit of meat off the glass and should radius the hole well. Not sure at all if most clients would want a hole. Hole or no-hole is a question. Thanks for tip.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 13:04:54 GMT -5
Darn, finally an Urban Dictionary definition rated PG MsAli. bohemian somebody who leads an alternative lifestyle, they are not hippies because they can have an extremly wide range of different tastes in music, fashion, art, literature etc they are usually very creative people. they are above all optimists, even if they can be very cynical too(it does make sense...sort of). they like wearing a mixture of wierd clothes and mix different fashions together just for the heck of it. they like weed. genrally very laid back and relaxed. rainbow bowler hat yeah!!!! im making some flares out of this really nice material its lots of little squares of different coloured tartan sewed together (patchwork) wood! Gypsy...when Dad was in college he and Mom lived in apartment in a neighborhood heavily populated with gypsies. Mom said she had to keep an eye on Dad quite regularly. Mom's demeanor always made me wonder about Dad's activities with the Gypsy clan lol. Good luck with the hand-me-down. The lady vultures grabbed the glass(only 3 pieces of many) up that Mema said I could have. Life not fair.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 19, 2018 13:07:21 GMT -5
Our fathers and grandfathers were a brave lot during the industrial age. Mad men and would try anything back in those days. www.cmog.org/collection/exhibitions/mirror-to-discoveryIn March 1934, Corning poured a 200-inch disk, but part of the mold broke loose during the pouring, ruining the blank. McCauley decided to continue with annealing (a process required to slowly cool the glass) as an experiment. That imperfect disk has become an iconic object in the collection of The Corning Museum of Glass. It has been suspended in the same spot for 60 years, since the Museum opened to the public in 1951. The second attempt at pouring was successful, and after a year’s annealing time, the disk was finished and taken by train to California. The creation of the disk, and its journey across an economically depressed nation, captured the public’s attention. Famed radio commentator Lowell Thomas called the pouring of the disk “the greatest item of interest to the civilized world in 25 years, not excluding the World War.”
I remember reading this way back in 1988, on the 50th anniversary of the journey of that mirror for the telescope.
Palomar, After 50 Years
Pouring and annealing the disk was quite an achievement, but transporting it was pretty trying as well.
This more recent (June 2010) article I remember reading as well. Odyssey of the Giant Eye
ETA - Cleaning and realuminizing the lens very involved, too. And it is done every year or two!
Yeah, I know. More than you wanted to know, lol. I have learned over the years that glass, and glass figurines, make great dust attractors.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 19, 2018 13:41:56 GMT -5
Darn, finally an Urban Dictionary definition rated PG MsAli . bohemian somebody who leads an alternative lifestyle, they are not hippies because they can have an extremly wide range of different tastes in music, fashion, art, literature etc they are usually very creative people. they are above all optimists, even if they can be very cynical too(it does make sense...sort of). they like wearing a mixture of wierd clothes and mix different fashions together just for the heck of it. they like weed. genrally very laid back and relaxed. rainbow bowler hat yeah!!!! im making some flares out of this really nice material its lots of little squares of different coloured tartan sewed together (patchwork) wood! Gypsy...when Dad was in college he and Mom lived in apartment in a neighborhood heavily populated with gypsies. Mom said she had to keep an eye on Dad quite regularly. Mom's demeanor always made me wonder about Dad's activities with the Gypsy clan lol. Good luck with the hand-me-down. The lady vultures grabbed the glass(only 3 pieces of many) up that Mema said I could have. Life not fair. Bohemia (/boʊˈhiːmiə/ boh-HEE-mee-ə;[1] Czech: Čechy;[2] German: About this sound Böhmen (help·info); Polish: Czechy; French: Bohême; Latin: Bohemia; Italian: Boemia) is the westernmost and largest historical region of the Czech lands in the present-day Czech Republic. In a broader meaning, Bohemia sometimes refers to the entire Czech territory, including Moravia and Czech Silesia,[3] especially in a historical context, such as the Lands of the Bohemian Crown ruled by Bohemian kings.
Bohemia was a duchy of Great Moravia, later an independent principality, a kingdom in the Holy Roman Empire, and subsequently a part of the Habsburg Monarchy and the Austrian Empire.[4] After World War I and the establishment of an independent Czechoslovak state, Bohemia became a part of Czechoslovakia. Between 1938 and 1945, border regions with sizeable German-speaking minorities of all three Czech lands were joined to Nazi Germany as the Sudetenland.[5]
They were actually from Bohemia-hard getting family history, as they did not keep records. I would love to know more about them, but everyone is now long gone. I do know they travleld into Hungary and then eventually into England, then from there they came to Mn. (why I have no idea) She stood 4ft nothing, was quit a hoot and a a little scary at times (my mom said they were not actual gypsies, but witches)
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 19, 2018 14:02:09 GMT -5
The glass drills with less effort compared to agate Kevin. so it opens that door too. Melting glass pendants only requires a hole in the mold. Then tumble to make a professional looking finished hole. Or pre-drilling broken glass before tumbling. yep that should work too btw I've been here a couple of times long ago, doubt you could bring your hammer www.cmog.org/
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 14:10:37 GMT -5
Darn, finally an Urban Dictionary definition rated PG MsAli . bohemian somebody who leads an alternative lifestyle, they are not hippies because they can have an extremly wide range of different tastes in music, fashion, art, literature etc they are usually very creative people. they are above all optimists, even if they can be very cynical too(it does make sense...sort of). they like wearing a mixture of wierd clothes and mix different fashions together just for the heck of it. they like weed. genrally very laid back and relaxed. rainbow bowler hat yeah!!!! im making some flares out of this really nice material its lots of little squares of different coloured tartan sewed together (patchwork) wood! Gypsy...when Dad was in college he and Mom lived in apartment in a neighborhood heavily populated with gypsies. Mom said she had to keep an eye on Dad quite regularly. Mom's demeanor always made me wonder about Dad's activities with the Gypsy clan lol. Good luck with the hand-me-down. The lady vultures grabbed the glass(only 3 pieces of many) up that Mema said I could have. Life not fair. Bohemia (/boʊˈhiːmiə/ boh-HEE-mee-ə;[1] Czech: Čechy;[2] German: About this sound Böhmen (help·info); Polish: Czechy; French: Bohême; Latin: Bohemia; Italian: Boemia) is the westernmost and largest historical region of the Czech lands in the present-day Czech Republic. In a broader meaning, Bohemia sometimes refers to the entire Czech territory, including Moravia and Czech Silesia,[3] especially in a historical context, such as the Lands of the Bohemian Crown ruled by Bohemian kings.
Bohemia was a duchy of Great Moravia, later an independent principality, a kingdom in the Holy Roman Empire, and subsequently a part of the Habsburg Monarchy and the Austrian Empire.[4] After World War I and the establishment of an independent Czechoslovak state, Bohemia became a part of Czechoslovakia. Between 1938 and 1945, border regions with sizeable German-speaking minorities of all three Czech lands were joined to Nazi Germany as the Sudetenland.[5]
They were actually from Bohemia-hard getting family history, as they did not keep records. I would love to know more about them, but everyone is now long gone. I do know they travleld into Hungary and then eventually into England, then from there they came to Mn. (why I have no idea) She stood 4ft nothing, was quit a hoot and a a little scary at times (my mom said they were not actual gypsies, but witches)
Sounds like a Heinz 57 mix of hot blood. No wonder Dad was over there sniffing the chairs. Every time I bought a bi-polar crazy date by the house I had to pry he and her apart. Dirty old rascal that man. I'll have to melt some checkered glass. remember the Czech brothers on Saturday Night Live ? Never knew the Gypsy had such a complicated heritage. I always thought they were 100% Hungarian. Fascinating history.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 19, 2018 14:28:40 GMT -5
Our fathers and grandfathers were a brave lot during the industrial age. Mad men and would try anything back in those days. www.cmog.org/collection/exhibitions/mirror-to-discoveryIn March 1934, Corning poured a 200-inch disk, but part of the mold broke loose during the pouring, ruining the blank. McCauley decided to continue with annealing (a process required to slowly cool the glass) as an experiment. That imperfect disk has become an iconic object in the collection of The Corning Museum of Glass. It has been suspended in the same spot for 60 years, since the Museum opened to the public in 1951. The second attempt at pouring was successful, and after a year’s annealing time, the disk was finished and taken by train to California. The creation of the disk, and its journey across an economically depressed nation, captured the public’s attention. Famed radio commentator Lowell Thomas called the pouring of the disk “the greatest item of interest to the civilized world in 25 years, not excluding the World War.”
I remember reading this way back in 1988, on the 50th anniversary of the journey of that mirror for the telescope.
Palomar, After 50 Years
Pouring and annealing the disk was quite an achievement, but transporting it was pretty trying as well.
This more recent (June 2010) article I remember reading as well. Odyssey of the Giant Eye
ETA - Cleaning and realuminizing the lens very involved, too. And it is done every year or two!
Yeah, I know. More than you wanted to know, lol. I have learned over the years that glass, and glass figurines, make great dust attractors.
Such a seriously giant achievement. You Californians are a ferocious bunch when it comes to tackling the near impossible. Fooling with optical formula, the amount of light a 200 inch mirror would bring to a human's pupil: 200 inch mirror = 31,400 sq in .2 inch human pupil = .03 sq in Divide. 31,400/.03 = 1,046,666, so 200 inch mirror would bring to human eye just over 1 million times more light at 1X power. If you cranked it up to say 100 magnification you would divide 1 million by 100, 1,000,000/100 = 10,000.(believe that is the formula, increase mag and lose light) So at 100 magnification Palomar would bring 10,000 times more light to your eye BUT at high magnification. Just an idea of what you could see with such an optical assist. You'd be seeing stars and galaxies that you never imagined existed. they have probably developed electron telescopes similar to digital camera technology the bring in and process much lower lit images at this day. Or connected them to the mechanical lens at Palomar. Interesting stuff Jean.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 19, 2018 15:34:18 GMT -5
Bohemia (/boʊˈhiːmiə/ boh-HEE-mee-ə;[1] Czech: Čechy;[2] German: About this sound Böhmen (help·info); Polish: Czechy; French: Bohême; Latin: Bohemia; Italian: Boemia) is the westernmost and largest historical region of the Czech lands in the present-day Czech Republic. In a broader meaning, Bohemia sometimes refers to the entire Czech territory, including Moravia and Czech Silesia,[3] especially in a historical context, such as the Lands of the Bohemian Crown ruled by Bohemian kings.
Bohemia was a duchy of Great Moravia, later an independent principality, a kingdom in the Holy Roman Empire, and subsequently a part of the Habsburg Monarchy and the Austrian Empire.[4] After World War I and the establishment of an independent Czechoslovak state, Bohemia became a part of Czechoslovakia. Between 1938 and 1945, border regions with sizeable German-speaking minorities of all three Czech lands were joined to Nazi Germany as the Sudetenland.[5]
They were actually from Bohemia-hard getting family history, as they did not keep records. I would love to know more about them, but everyone is now long gone. I do know they travleld into Hungary and then eventually into England, then from there they came to Mn. (why I have no idea) She stood 4ft nothing, was quit a hoot and a a little scary at times (my mom said they were not actual gypsies, but witches)
Sounds like a Heinz 57 mix of hot blood. No wonder Dad was over there sniffing the chairs. Every time I bought a bi-polar crazy date by the house I had to pry he and her apart. Dirty old rascal that man. I'll have to melt some checkered glass. remember the Czech brothers on Saturday Night Live ? Never knew the Gypsy had such a complicated heritage. I always thought they were 100% Hungarian. Fascinating history. hhhhmmmmmm why do I think the apple has not fallen far from the tree? Believe it or not I have never watched SNL- Bohemian glass-http://www.kralik-glass.com/frametemplate.html ***you will understand why I remind my aunts I want the glass one day
bohemiancaravans.weebly.com/about-us-a-history-of-bohemia-and-gypsies.html
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 19, 2018 18:33:11 GMT -5
Such a seriously giant achievement. You Californians are a ferocious bunch when it comes to tackling the near impossible. Ha ha, ya got that right, James. Californians a stubborn bunch!
Ever hear of "The Impossible Railroad?" LINK Amazing what they could accomplish back at the turn of the 20th century. We pass to the south of this man-made wonder every time we go out I-8 to the desert. But you have to get off the beaten path a bit to have access to where the photos in that link were taken. Check out the link, just for the photos.
Here's one more link to the Pacific Southwest Railway Museum Association LINK which gives more history on The Impossible Railroad.
Maybe that's where Governor Moonbeam got his idea from (do the impossible?). He keeps wanting to spend a bazillion dollars on a north/south railroad that is not needed! He is ineligible to run again, thank God!! About time he retires, he's done enough damage!
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Post by fernwood on Jan 19, 2018 19:28:52 GMT -5
A friend of mine has a small glass kiln and other equipment. She spent some time on my previous property digging from the early to mid 1900's "dumps" on my property. Went home with several 5 gallon pails filled with vintage glass and ceramic pieces. She used them to make beads, which sold for $10.00 each. They were beautiful. She found lots of cobalt blue, red and amber glass plus green/white/blue milk glass. A little black glass was a huge surprise for her, as she said this was rarely found. The ceramic pieces often had patterns. She embedded those within clear or colored glass.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 19, 2018 20:08:23 GMT -5
A friend of mine has a small glass kiln and other equipment. She spent some time on my previous property digging from the early to mid 1900's "dumps" on my property. Went home with several 5 gallon pails filled with vintage glass and ceramic pieces. She used them to make beads, which sold for $10.00 each. They were beautiful. She found lots of cobalt blue, red and amber glass plus green/white/blue milk glass. A little black glass was a huge surprise for her, as she said this was rarely found. The ceramic pieces often had patterns. She embedded those within clear or colored glass. That hurts my heart a bit. I pray they were already broken. Most likely depression glass. Cobalt blue probably Fenton😟 Black was actually called black amethyst. I know Indiana Glass Company made a lot of it as did some others. It is hard to find. Whole pieces would of brought more than $10.00 a piece.
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Post by toolnut on Jan 19, 2018 20:32:47 GMT -5
In a word, WOW, you've done it more than once, which says the procedure is pretty well on the mark. That stuff is great, what's next? Drove 10 hour round trip to pick up a used glass kiln yesterday. Going to make glass tumbles. Another endeavor, slumping glass. Great find. Now you can really get into it.
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Post by fernwood on Jan 19, 2018 22:43:58 GMT -5
A friend of mine has a small glass kiln and other equipment. She spent some time on my previous property digging from the early to mid 1900's "dumps" on my property. Went home with several 5 gallon pails filled with vintage glass and ceramic pieces. She used them to make beads, which sold for $10.00 each. They were beautiful. She found lots of cobalt blue, red and amber glass plus green/white/blue milk glass. A little black glass was a huge surprise for her, as she said this was rarely found. The ceramic pieces often had patterns. She embedded those within clear or colored glass. That hurts my heart a bit. I pray they were already broken. Most likely depression glass. Cobalt blue probably Fenton😟 Black was actually called black amethyst. I know Indiana Glass Company made a lot of it as did some others. It is hard to find. Whole pieces would of brought more than $10.00 a piece. Yes, everything was broken pieces. I am an antique/Depression glass expert. Some pieces were Royal Ruby beer bottles. My Uncle and I had already taken about 60 intact bottles from one site, when I was about 12 years old. The person who was going there before us, without permission on our land, took over 100 intact bottles out. I have two perfect condition dark, slightly clear, black glass bottles we also found. One still has the intact wire and cork stopper mechanism. The other one has embossing that says, liniment some numbers and Minneapolis Minnesota . Would have had a cork stopper. The ceramics were Willow Blue. One of the translucent blue pieces was a Shirley Temple portrait pitcher, broken, but I immediately knew what it was. Some other blue bottle pieces and some Hairpin Depression blue pieces of glass. Forgot to mention that there were some pink depression pieces, Rose of Sharon pattern, plus unknowns and some 1940's or 50's Marigold Iris pattern. Also some purple carnival glass pieces. I have almost complete sets of Crystal and Marigold Iris. Also a close to complete Rose of Sharon, pink set. A few pieces of carnival glass that I inherited and others I purchased at yard sales, from unknowing sellers. I did not know you were a vintage glass lover. Something we have in common. I appreciate your concern about breaking intact, vintage glass for other uses. Me, I collect vintage glass saucers to use as trays beneath plants. Once something is gone, it is gone forever. REst assured, I would never destroy history.
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Post by vegasjames on Jan 19, 2018 23:18:52 GMT -5
James, the chemical coloring composition of glass is a study in itself. Watching videos of the hand-me-down recipes of mid-century glass makers within families on the island of Murano is interesting read. Much of the coloring elements and compounds the same as those found in geology. Yes, I have done a ton of reading on this recently for a project I am working on. And I am familiar with a lot of glass working techniques because my brother use to do glass blowing and he learned from one of the top rated glass blowers in the country. I use to hang out down at the shop and help out with things. In my spare time I would read the books on glass working there. Glass coloring involves the use of individual or blends of metal oxides and carbonates to either induce colors, such as the use of cobalt to induce shades of blue or mixed with other oxides to form other colors like black, or to mask colors such as the use of cobalt or selenium to mask the green in glass caused by iron impurites.
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