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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 3:05:28 GMT -5
This shelf is loaded with surface added color dots that would tumble away, clear glass being clad to the bottom to protect color during tumble. They will end up being cab shaped melt blobs if melt goes well. If..... All 8 shelves in this cook holds about 130 pendant sized melts weighing 8 to 14 grams. All are shard melts from Matt Janke's blown glass. Zero creativity on my behalf lol, thank him for the art work. clear glass on bottom, color coating facing down to sandwich These are blown glass shards with color sandwiched between clear glass top and bottom. Easy, again Mr. Janke's color creations Some of these had color on outside, again coated then with clear glass so tumbler will not wear color away Kiln packed to the hilt. Cook is computer controlled with 5 steps including hold times and controlled temp ramps. 19 hour cook. Modified heating schedule to melt this 'already blown' glass which changes many properties. This man's glass was heated fairly consistently in his blowing process so I can re-fuse it fairly repeatedly. Fairly. Easy to use iPad records before and afters. Some of this glass may not behave well. The melt shaping may not work for them and melting is a waste of time. An intimate knowledge may come in handy over the next years in manipulating Janke's glass types with heat. So having a large inventory from a single source is a big help. So far it has been fairly predictable. Glass from other sources is a crap shoot. This is machine made glass from a 4 pound plate. It generated about 200 pieces. 5mm thick with 1mm red glass humps. A few samples will be heated to see if it will blob melt as there are so many. It also has the issue of having the color on the surface and is vulnerable to being tumbled off. It is doubtful that a foreign piece of clear glass could be fused to it, but attempt will be made on a few samples. Note precision white glass 'C' injected into red glass. A machine is about the only way such tolerances could be held. To the right is the edge of the plate. Note precise color fade added to bottom as moving from left to right.
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Post by aDave on Feb 25, 2018 3:20:21 GMT -5
jamesp. I can't even keep track of what you are doing overall. That's a compliment. You've got a helluva setup going on, and it's neat to see what your are doing. Kudos to you. I guess that's all I can say. Dave
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Post by fernwood on Feb 25, 2018 4:25:10 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing everything you are doing and documenting.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 4:44:55 GMT -5
jamesp. I can't even keep track of what you are doing overall. That's a compliment. You've got a helluva setup going on, and it's neat to see what your are doing. Kudos to you. I guess that's all I can say. Dave That is because of the large variety of glass available. At least here in the Atlanta area. The glass recyclers, glass blowers, importers and thrift shops had been target destinations I visited for years. The landscapers in the pond plant business were always using glass in their landscapes and ponds. Like you mentioned, there are glass blowers near you. I had been aware of a lot of glass availability for years in this city. Finally found something to do with it ! Source can be everything. If you had a rare 4 color poppy agate mine in your backyard you would be a very happy tumbler/agate digger. Crushed glass sorted by color can be bought at Strategic Materials(glass recycler) for only $80/ton. Strategic has factories all over the country, bet you got one near your home. Glad to maintain your interest. I think it is just beginning.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 4:47:48 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing everything you are doing and documenting. Sit back and do some arm chair melts with me fernwood. I'll post these when they cool. I need to learn to be patient. A watched pot never boils - something like that lol. Maybe you will get you a kiln and revisit your fusing days ?
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 5:30:17 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing everything you are doing and documenting. Sit back and do some arm chair melts with me fernwood. I'll post these when they cool. I need to learn to be patient. A watched pot never boils - something like that lol. Maybe you will get you a kiln and revisit your fusing days ? Snuck a few out while they are hot. Washed them in hot water to avoid cracking. Melt OK, got some grinding to do before tumbling. This is a good representation of Janke's 3 dimensional work. He can make patterns with the best, not bad eh MsAliI feel like a squid making pendants out of his art work but he says he does not care. All with dead flat backs and bezel compatible, a benefit of melting.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 25, 2018 10:54:47 GMT -5
I just find this so fascinating to watch. Janke's glass is looking really good. I'm already coveting the piece on the top left under the red -- really. Can't wait to see what this batch comes out looking like from the tumble.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 11:15:45 GMT -5
I just find this so fascinating to watch. Janke's glass is looking really good. I'm already coveting the piece on the top left under the red -- really. Can't wait to see what this batch comes out looking like from the tumble. It ended up being 130 pieces @ 3.3 pounds of melts hummingbirdstones. Average weight 11.6 grams, about perfect for pendants. Will do some quick touch ups/shaping on the grinder and then send them to the tumblers. My favorite 2 'man' jewels in bottom photo. Will have to melt a clear piece to back to prevent tumbling from breaching color coated to backside. Mr. Janke makes a lot of masculine colors and patterns. Sri Fi/Goth/Punk. These I find appealing too. Getting ready to go load the kiln up again !
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Post by Garage Rocker on Feb 25, 2018 12:18:25 GMT -5
You should get some killer pendant pieces out of that bunch. Awesome patterns!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 14:12:55 GMT -5
You should get some killer pendant pieces out of that bunch. Awesome patterns! I timed myself cleaning them up on the tile saw Randy. I took just under 15 minutes to clean up this 100 batch before tumbling. These only need 2 to 3 days in coarse if the tumbler is adjusted well, but finish steps quite longer. sure fills the belly of the tile saw with mud in a hurry. Glass like this is about as good as I can get my hands on.
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Post by NRG on Feb 25, 2018 17:48:12 GMT -5
Sweetsauce
The glass 'C's are easily handmade. See the millifiore process. I have seen sugar artists do the same. They can put an owl with eyes in the center of a hard candy piece, by hand.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 25, 2018 19:08:58 GMT -5
Sweetsauce The glass 'C's are easily handmade. See the millifiore process. I have seen sugar artists do the same. They can put an owl with eyes in the center of a hard candy piece, by hand. Glass artists are miracle workers. Super talents. I'll stick to machine made on this one though because of another wave of glass to the left of the 'c' only a couple of thousandths thick that runs consistently through the long red strand making a spiral starting from center to edge of plate about 30 feet long. Such fine continuos injections are only capable by a machine.
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Post by Pat on Feb 25, 2018 19:19:02 GMT -5
Such feel good eye candy! Thank you!
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Post by MsAli on Feb 25, 2018 20:43:35 GMT -5
Sit back and do some arm chair melts with me fernwood . I'll post these when they cool. I need to learn to be patient. A watched pot never boils - something like that lol. Maybe you will get you a kiln and revisit your fusing days ? Snuck a few out while they are hot. Washed them in hot water to avoid cracking. Melt OK, got some grinding to do before tumbling. This is a good representation of Janke's 3 dimensional work. He can make patterns with the best, not bad eh MsAli I feel like a squid making pendants out of his art work but he says he does not care. All with dead flat backs and bezel compatible, a benefit of melting. Those are so beautiful
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Post by NRG on Feb 25, 2018 23:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Feb 26, 2018 6:23:18 GMT -5
Such feel good eye candy! Thank you! Just snuck down to the basement(better known as "The Dungeon") Pat. Took a peak into the kiln to see what beauties abound. Dang, glass still at about 400F and too hot to pull them out. Don't get a glass kiln Pat, more addictive than cocaine
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Post by jamesp on Feb 26, 2018 6:33:36 GMT -5
Snuck a few out while they are hot. Washed them in hot water to avoid cracking. Melt OK, got some grinding to do before tumbling. This is a good representation of Janke's 3 dimensional work. He can make patterns with the best, not bad eh MsAli I feel like a squid making pendants out of his art work but he says he does not care. All with dead flat backs and bezel compatible, a benefit of melting. Those are so beautiful I am preparing a "colors and patterns of Janke" collection. For him and his 2 glass blowers. He does not have a color chip chart. Probably pendant shapes silicon glued to a sheet of clear glass with about 30 of his textures in polished form in a frame. And a collection of blown tumbles from 5 European countries showing the polished cross section of these international artist's workmanship. These will be labeled little plastic bags with a couple of samples from each country. 3 sets, one for Janke and one for each of his 2 workers.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 26, 2018 6:57:08 GMT -5
THAT is a cool project. Talk about one-of-a-kind technology. I figured they would have learned a way to make a bunch of smaller lenses and couple them digitally. Glass on such a massive scale is a real test. You know how easy that stuff will crack. Hell, I freaked out the art glass community by casting 6x6x3 inch block of glass in my tiny over powered kiln with a 9x9x9 inch heat box without cracks. Long ramp and anneal times. But a project of this magnitude is horse of different color. Any chance you could talk them into 4 meter sphere ? Check out that grinding equipment. I bought a 37 year old kiln with antiquated controls for nada. I bought a ramp/hold controller with solid state switch and K thermocouple out of China, a kit for $127. www.ebay.com/itm/Ramp-Soak-Temperature-Controller-Kiln-SSR-Thermocouple-Programmable-Control-50S/121092751239?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649Shoe string budget deal. Gotta put it together and see if I can get the system going. It is a larger 2 section kiln with 17x17x18 inch heat box. Probably just use one section 17x17x9 and save the other section for spare parts.
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Post by fernwood on Feb 26, 2018 7:06:28 GMT -5
Can see why you like the "men" pieces. They look Mid evil to me. I love the ones that are brown/black/cream.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 26, 2018 9:42:24 GMT -5
Can see why you like the "men" pieces. They look Mid evil to me. I love the ones that are brown/black/cream. More man glass from the burly Janke fernwood. Mid evil is an accurate descriptor, much of his glass is sold as pendant lights in the Atlanta bar scene. I guess a man that carries a 30 pound blob of glass on the end of a 6 foot pole all day stays in good shape. He's in shape. Some from the cooker this morning ready for pre-shaping. Janke patterns for the most part, some China made millefiori. A few test vases in last photo. Doing 100 to 130 per day. Experiments in every batch. Learning curve at full tilt. Glass fusing is totally conservative, amazed at the lack of adventuresome spirit. I build 8 small shelves every morning..no shelf gets put in the kiln without an experimental piece, that's the rule.
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