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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2007 20:01:22 GMT -5
Good job Kevin, it looks great!
Nathaniel
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Post by cpdad on Oct 2, 2007 20:15:29 GMT -5
here is my thinking so far about yaws feedback....and what i was gonna do to finish this up...please weigh in if yaw dont think im heading in the right direction...or with more advice. the water system would not be over head type...i picked up a cheap pump that said 195 gallons a hour...it will hopefully sit under the grinder in a five gallon bucket...and have enough pressure to work up hill...only 1 line on at a time...if the gang valves are water tight... hopefully they are....as of now the water will have to fall from the top of the gaurd....seems like it will be a hassle to position the hose....if pushed thru the top very far. there will be a drain return from the gaurds to the bucket....the pump will sit in its own cage at the top of the bucket and filtered all around...i will make a hanger to keep the pump at the highest point of water level. jack...yep it is 1 solid shaft...the spacers that are between the wheels now... actually came with the motor....spacers are steel. the motor is 1725 rpm purchased here www.etoolclub.com/index.cfm?area=shop&action=detail&iid=11513i see i need to fabricate at least 2 side gaurds....for the motor sides...just for keeping the motor clean if nothing else. if i need to think about something else...or am missing something...please say so ;D..kev.
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Post by blarneystone on Oct 2, 2007 20:44:28 GMT -5
That's a fine looking machine Kev. Can't wait to see it finished. Dan
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Post by docone31 on Oct 2, 2007 20:51:48 GMT -5
Done real good so far. Should work great. What about directly connecting to a water supply? With my machines, I tapped into the water to the sink, and ran 1/4" copper from the tap, to the outlets on the machines. My six head, I only use one at a time as I need it. With petcock valves, I can slow it down to a trickle. My outlet, I ran PVC pipe directly outside into the stone around my foundation. One run is quite long, but it is out of sight. Out of sight, out of mind. I can just crack the valve under the sink, then crack the petcocks. No pumps, no grit in the screen, just grind away.
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Post by BuiltonRock on Oct 2, 2007 21:35:07 GMT -5
Kev, That is one nice job! Congrats. john
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Post by parfive on Oct 2, 2007 22:02:16 GMT -5
" . . . 195 gallons a hour" ;D ;D ;D Sorry, Kevin, that just tickled my funny bone. My puffers don't spray that much in a year. Sorry again . . . I think the plumbing code calls for a 4" waste line to handle that much. Rich
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Post by parfive on Oct 2, 2007 22:11:33 GMT -5
Kidding aside, Kevin, if you have 1/8" or 1/4" brass 90's through the top of the splash guards, you could screw on short nipples of copper tubing to get closer to the 4" wheels.
Rich
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Post by cpdad on Oct 2, 2007 22:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by parfive on Oct 2, 2007 23:09:06 GMT -5
Kevin - That's 190 gph right at the pump, best case scenario. If you're pumping up 4' it'll be a more reasonable number. Plus you've got the valves.
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Post by rocklicker on Oct 2, 2007 23:36:16 GMT -5
Lookin good. I agree with the board thing and putting a shield on to protect the motor. Another thing to think about is that the splash guards should come close to the wheels. With the wheels not protected (or rather you) water will get thrown straight out. A cloth drape or lower splash guards will help. I sort of assumed that you designed the unit for larger wheels down the road. Steve
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Oct 3, 2007 2:57:26 GMT -5
Thanks Kev
And thanks for the Link. Have a good day
Jack Yorkshire UK
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Post by stefan on Oct 3, 2007 9:53:12 GMT -5
Just another thought on Doc Idea of Direct Water- If you don't want to run copper (have you seen the price of Copper Plumbing? ) Whay not just use a simple hose , faucet adaptor, and a stopcock- oh and maybe a reducer coupling- Hmmmmmm got me rethinking my homemade gravity drip system
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Post by cpdad on Oct 3, 2007 17:46:29 GMT -5
yep...doc has me thinking about the direct line stuff also...plus thats 1 less chord to worry about...but i got to test this pump set up....just cause i think it will work ;D. rocklicker....yes the top of the gaurds need to be closer to the wheels....i fully meant to make this adjustable also....i just plain forgot to do it ...doc said the wheels looked small...for the machine....i thought it down right looked funny with the 4 inch wheels...thats cause i forgot to add the adjustment up and down...stupid me ;D...ill get that done. and it will also have a peice of leather or something glued to the inside on the ttop angled gaurd...so the water will drip off the top gaurd instead of slide off at an angle back at ya. im off to look at the funny looking machine....to see what else i forgot to do ;D...kev.
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Post by cpdad on Oct 3, 2007 18:21:13 GMT -5
jim ..i had actually thought about that...i was hoping that since the little pump has an adjustment from low to high...that i could turn it down enough to still get an acceptable amount of water...without building up enough pressure to cause problems with the other lines...if it does cause problems...ill surely give you a shout.
doc...where does your water go....when the trays starts filling up...with the direct water line?....kev.
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Post by stefan on Oct 4, 2007 10:23:37 GMT -5
Doc plumbed it into his drain tile I think- pretty neat idea- really got me thinking about a direct water feed- course my shop is in the basement so my drain would have to go into the sump pump- so I would need to pay attention to potential slurry issues- Maybe a settlement basin with an overflow into the sump hole-
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Post by connrock on Oct 5, 2007 7:50:34 GMT -5
You did a great job on this Kevin! That motor can run a 1 bag cement mixer!! Are the shafts ss? I don't know if you've tried it with water but it looks to me that you may get wet as the top splash guards look a tad high to me? Hard to tell with photo's! VERY NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! connrock
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Post by cpdad on Oct 5, 2007 19:41:24 GMT -5
connrock...nope shafts arent stainless...i did think about removing the shaft from the motor...and machining a new shaft from stainless....but i figured with a good oil based coolant...i should be ok. i totally meant to make the gaurds adjustable up and down...it was the plan from the beginning....yes they are to high for the 4" wheels...i just slap forgot to do it ....im reworking them now. stefan....doc has me in a total rethunking phase...in a good way ;D...might as well set it up for both ways...i think ;D....kev.
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 5, 2007 20:13:02 GMT -5
This gives me an idea (I have a big motor almost just like that one) ;D
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Post by parfive on Oct 5, 2007 22:08:48 GMT -5
There's a lot to this plumbin' business, Kevin. It took 2000 years to get from the Roman aqueducts to the $5000 Japanese toilet seat.
Now if you can get your hands on a couple of them fancy seats, the spray wands would be awesome on a grinder!!!
Rich
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Post by docone31 on Oct 5, 2007 22:11:40 GMT -5
A simple bucket will probably do for the collection. I doubt there will be that much volume at any given time. Getting the spray on the wheels is the main issue. I drilled an hole directly in my floor directing the hose into a small hole I put some PVC tubing. So far so good. Otherwise, a simple 5 gallon bucket, under the unit.
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