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Post by jamesp on Jun 5, 2022 8:09:27 GMT -5
I believe Fig 4 above is from Yellowstone. Yes. The whole point is based on a link that compares Specimen Ridge to Mt St Helens I pulled from your petrified wood article. That would be this short article: petrifiedwoodmuseum.org/SpecimenRidge.htmIt has a lot of modern findings(since 1980)that brought new light to conventional geology. The article was written by conventional geologists. |
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Post by Lumberlegs on Jun 5, 2022 8:21:37 GMT -5
Not trying to lead you down side roads jamesp , but this talk about young earth reminded me of a part of a documentary I watched years ago I'm in the process of re-watching it myself, but I'll share it with you anyway. I believe his focus is more on coal formation. Anyway, maybe you'll find something useful here.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 5, 2022 9:14:38 GMT -5
Not trying to lead you down side roads jamesp , but this talk about young earth reminded me of a part of a documentary I watched years ago I'm in the process of re-watching it myself, but I'll share it with you anyway. I believe his focus is more on coal formation. Anyway, maybe you'll find something useful here.
I have a lazy day planned on the futon with 3 lazy hounds and house to myself. I will enjoy this video, looks right up my interest road. Thanks Chad. |
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Post by 1dave on Jun 5, 2022 13:26:34 GMT -5
jamesp , After looking at your images, In my minds eye, I see "1,000 mph wind 1500 degree knocking down and drying out every tree from Mississippi to Georgia, and piling them up in every low place. The drying caused ALL of the wood to checker. Some time later a series of huge waves, washing and burying them. Erosion finally exposing them in our time.   
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Post by jamesp on Jun 6, 2022 8:15:15 GMT -5
The shoreline deposit will live sure makes sense 1dave. All wood at the same elevation is key for a long length of known shoreline. These trees are delicate after petrification. If on site you can see how the hillsides have eroded and the whole trees sections simply came apart and fell down the hill that they were both deposited and silicified at. The biggest solid piece that I found that had been moved by grading machinery was this one, the rest of the graded easement was paved with small pieces. Step off the edge of the graded easement into the undisturbed forest and the whole logs are everywhere undisturbed by the grading operation. Look at the high level of fractures. They resemble the trees at the Arizona pet wood forest. Certainly those petrified in place. The largest piece in tact. Several hits with a 2 pound sledge hammer and it would be in pieces.:  |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 6, 2022 8:25:57 GMT -5
A few more: as usual the darker view is the cross cut long cuts:   The segments between the fractures are solid as usual:  closer  Today's trip will target large sawyer's specimens. The wife does not know I stole her 2 wheel dolly with inflatable tires and tied a diary crate to it to haul the big ones. She is very protective of that dolly. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2022 8:35:57 GMT -5
The answer is yes HankRocks, no problem taking a polish.  These were some of the first tumbles collected. Bad material must be avoided.  Good tumbling fodder   |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2022 8:39:21 GMT -5
Figured out a way to bring loads back thru the forest yesterday. One load plus a knapsack, could have done 5 to 6. Most time is spent selecting high graders.  |
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Post by HankRocks on Jun 7, 2022 10:37:29 GMT -5
Figured out a way to bring loads back thru the forest yesterday. One load plus a knapsack, could have done 5 to 6. Most time is spent selecting high graders. Jim, you definitely like living on the edge. Not only do you borrow your wife's 2 wheel dolly, but posting a picture of the act for the whole world to see. I suppose it could be worse, you could have taken some of the good dish towels for cushioning!!! |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 7, 2022 10:39:41 GMT -5
Figured out a way to bring loads back thru the forest yesterday. One load plus a knapsack, could have done 5 to 6. Most time is spent selecting high graders. Jim, you definitely like living on the edge. Not only do you borrow your wife's 2 wheel dolly, but posting a picture of the act for the whole world to see. I suppose it could be worse, you could have taken some of the good dish towels for cushioning!!!
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Post by aGates on Jun 7, 2022 12:09:50 GMT -5
this is fascinating as well.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2022 12:12:31 GMT -5
Figured out a way to bring loads back thru the forest yesterday. One load plus a knapsack, could have done 5 to 6. Most time is spent selecting high graders. Jim, you definitely like living on the edge. Not only do you borrow your wife's 2 wheel dolly, but posting a picture of the act for the whole world to see. I suppose it could be worse, you could have taken some of the good dish towels for cushioning!!! You could blackmail Henry. The girl has been buying potting soil and giant ceramic pots by the pick up truck load. She fills them, waters them and plants them. Guess who's moving the 200 pound monsters all over the yard and setting them up on pot stands ! Her dolly and her dolly slave. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2022 12:32:12 GMT -5
this is fascinating as well. Johnny aGates It is fascinating. The tree behavior around Mt St Helens has revealed many new discoveries Johnnie. Eventually the logs should waterlog and sink along with the bark to add to the potential coal deposit. Since logs float they can sure define shoreline deposits too. All things considered trees leave a considerable geologic evidence trail. Thanks for sharing. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2022 12:48:38 GMT -5
This 15 pound chunk was pried out of the creek bottom. Been wanting to try this. It was concreted into the hard sand/clay hardpan serving as the creek bottom. And it may well have silicified right where it was found. Hopefully others will have the purple hues seen in this sample. Fossil coral pried out of clay also varies greatly depending on the type of clay and location of clay relative to water. For example black muck stained clay in the bottom of river pools yields fossil coral rich in a black outline and black features. The last cut was aimed at sawing thru one of the purple bands:     |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2022 7:00:18 GMT -5
No shortage of large specimens, cutting size limited by 18" saw.   Note super linear fracture lines. There must be some sort of crystalline component. A rawhide mallet would divide this 20 pounder into about 10 very solid flat faced segments. The rule is - if the chunk is well water polished it should be in well connected saw-able condition. But can be reduced with a mallet after sawing. Below the falls is piles of individual segments where the rough treatment separated the larger chunks into solid pieces.   Cross cut with no growth rings as usual ?@#$%   |
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Post by aGates on Jun 8, 2022 11:17:33 GMT -5
I dub the last picture "super nova" if I found a private stash of material that shouldn't be there I'm telling you ide feel so damn happy, just tickled pink.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 9, 2022 6:35:04 GMT -5
I dub the last picture "super nova" if I found a private stash of material that shouldn't be there I'm telling you ide feel so damn happy, just tickled pink. Johnny aGates It was a big surprise Johnny aGates. One day I'll tell the world it's down there but not until I get my fill. |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 9, 2022 8:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Jun 9, 2022 11:04:19 GMT -5
I dub the last picture "super nova" if I found a private stash of material that shouldn't be there I'm telling you ide feel so damn happy, just tickled pink. Johnny aGates It was a big surprise Johnny aGates. One day I'll tell the world it's down there but not until I get my fill. Not even US? We won't be able to see all the above photos? How can ye be sae cruel? |
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Post by jamesp on Jun 10, 2022 9:25:33 GMT -5
It was a big surprise Johnny aGates. One day I'll tell the world it's down there but not until I get my fill. Not even US? We won't be able to see all the above photos? How can ye be sae cruel? I finally hiked thru the flood plain along the creek to the south maybe 1/2 mile. This property suffers from extreme farming abuse and has had serious erosion problems. Downstream it became apparent just how erosion damaged the property is but is a blessing for the pet wood hunter. Truck loads of bigger 50 to 100 pound chunks. Not sure how far this float goes, at least 1/4 mile and 50 yards wide. Wow. Next trip the hike will be yet further south. 2 miles south to next gravel road but gets swampy. Best selection ever but a hell hike to get it out of there. Talk about a killer pet wood log xeriscape this spot would be the go to. A shame most of the wood is riddled with fractures and the silicification colors were more diverse. This is the floodplain, normally it should be silt 10 feet deep instead of being covered with pet wood !      Judging from the banks of the creek the pet wood is loaded in the adjacent floodplain too   Plenty of 200 year old pines and hardwoods for shade. Nice water oak. Killer variety of wetland forest herbaceous plants. Poison Ivy is terrible though. I am covered up, it even made it under the thick skin of my hands causing intense itching. That was a first.  |
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