I found an old bottle dump!

[parfive]

That Female Remedy’s probably illegal in twenty-five states by now.       

[lparsons]

Jul 27, 2022 22:04:36 GMT -5 ashley said:

lparsons
I haven’t yet, other then a piece of sea glass I threw in the lot o with a batch of Lake Michigan rocks. I know there are many who can give great advice. manofglass Walt could.

Oh yeah, manofglass gave me a recipe for tumbling glass. It looks to be much easier and quicker to polish than rocks. 🤣 I put a few pieces in with my current load of misc. rocks just a couple days ago and took a peek at them last night (no patience here🤣) and they are coming along nicely.

[lparsons]

Jul 27, 2022 22:12:17 GMT -5 ashley said:

lparsons
This will probably be helpful, from what I have heard you tumble obsidian and glass pretty much the same.

www.rocktumblinghobby.com/files/ObsidianTumblingRecipe.pdf

Thanks for the link ashley. I love snowflake obsidian and have tumbled it with excellent results. 🤗

[quartzilla]

A better name for Doctor Kilmer might be Doctor Killpatient from the looks of those concoctions.

[jamesp]

A few early 1900's bottles found at an old 'boat stop post office' about 200 yards from the shore of Lake George Florida.
The water depth varied 2 to 4 feet deep depending on lake levels. More experienced bottle collectors knew where the 18th century steam boat docks were and found much older valuable bottles. They were a secretive bunch.
A steel probing tool is used to locate bottles on/in the lake bottom.



Homemade arrowhead/bottle probe



Post office from shore(the 2 posts out in the lake lol). One remaining dock post showing in foreground at high water. More sticking up at low water.



At old post office site looking 200 yards back at the shore. Back in the early 1900's there was a fishing village and a bar on the shore. All long gone. Mullet, blue crab and shrimp were the targets. When the mullet were with eggs they would harvest them just for their egg row(sacks) and trash the whole fish, shameful practice.



It was an interesting 6 mile trip from camp to get to the site by boat.
A stop at the 4 mile mark at the mouth point of Silver Glen Springs to attempt to collect arrowheads.



Massive shell middens left by ancient man




Critters on the way



The deer in the rear probably stepped in a tilapia bed



The gator hunters have been trying to catch this big beast for years. 12 inches between the eyes = 12 feet long. He's all of that and FAT.



Nice clear water



Not such clear water where the shoreline bottle probing begins.




A variety of bickering onlookers when returning to camp.



A few more if interested: www.flickr.com/photos/67205364@N06/albums/72157672781247515

The rare art of mullet fishing with bread balls. Its like hooking onto a torpedo, they swim hard sun up to sun down.




Florida bass bait

[rockjunquie]

When I lived in Pensacola we called mullet Biloxie Bacon. Not much better for the regular fish fries. I always liked mullet, though I was never able to hook one. At my favorite fishing spot, I watched them jump clean out of the water all day long- teasing me. Someone told me that they made these jumps to help digest their food.

[quartzilla]

I’m disappointed the mullet fish doesn’t have a 80’s heavy metal haircut😫

[jamesp]

Jul 30, 2022 5:58:08 GMT -5 rockjunquie said:

When I lived in Pensacola we called mullet Biloxie Bacon. Not much better for the regular fish fries. I always liked mullet, though I was never able to hook one. At my favorite fishing spot, I watched them jump clean out of the water all day long- teasing me. Someone told me that they made these jumps to help digest their food.

It was much easier to catch them in the calm lake Tela. They barely move the bobber when they bite, you almost have to set the hook before they bite ! The locals taught me. Of course these mullet were large breeder size 3 to 5 pound chunks and had a stronger bite. They swam up the St John's River from 130 miles at the ocean outlet. They don't freeze well at all, they are really good when smoked. The neighbor had a big smoker and invited the hood over on weekends. Fun for all. I'm glad to know why they jump, never could figure out why they did.

[jamesp]

Jul 30, 2022 6:33:41 GMT -5 quartzilla said:

I’m disappointed the mullet fish doesn’t have a 80’s heavy metal haircut😫

Lol. They an ugly fish quartzilla. A mullet cut would suit them well ! Just know they have a heck of a fight in them when hooked.
Tarpon(over 50 pounds) would also come up river to feed on them.

[1dave]

Jul 24, 2022 14:27:54 GMT -5 RWA3006 said:

I almost had a conniption until I realized the glass was already broken. Whew, what a relief. I like to collect old bottles and whiskey flasks are my favorites. Medicine bottles too.

How did the dinosaurs pass those?

[RWA3006]

Jul 30, 2022 12:22:19 GMT -5 1dave said:

Jul 24, 2022 14:27:54 GMT -5 RWA3006 said:

I almost had a conniption until I realized the glass was already broken. Whew, what a relief. I like to collect old bottles and whiskey flasks are my favorites. Medicine bottles too.

How did the dinosaurs pass those?

I like to collect peculiar and eccentric things, the stranger, the better. Coprolites seemed to fit my crappy personality better.

[jamesp]

Another bottle story, please forgive me lparsons.

I had to go to Tampa Bay to a place called Ballast Point because it was rich in nice fossilized coral. Well, the shore was picked over 100% so I put the snorkel on and swam out to 4-6 feet deep water. Dang bottom was all sand so I dove down and fanned a foot of sand away and found unfound coral on a sand covered chert bedrock. Success ! Hopefully it wasn't a shark habitat. After fanning for a few minutes I uncovered an old bottle. It was my last few hours of a 2 day trip so I had to leave soon. That hurt. Oh well.

I will say that if a man had a small pump to push the sand away he would find a truck full of cool old bottles and fine coral pseudomorphs.

These were what was found in a couple of hours, the purple bottle is likely made from the bottle collector's favorite manganese rich sand common around Jacksonville. Manganese glass turns purple when ultraviolet rays strike it over time.



This is the old Inn with boat docks that used to be at Ballast Point replaced by a public dock in later years. Probably lots of bottles tossed at that site. Postcard dated 1906. Manchurian architecture ?

[jamesp]

Jul 30, 2022 13:26:33 GMT -5 RWA3006 said:

Jul 30, 2022 12:22:19 GMT -5 1dave said:

How did the dinosaurs pass those?

I like to collect peculiar and eccentric things, the stranger, the better. Coprolites seemed to fit my crappy personality better.

Treasures Randy, treasures. Man after my own heart.

[lparsons]

Omg jamesp! You get to have all the fun🤣Those are some beautiful bottles, especially the purple. I would love to dive for bottles! 🤗

[rockjunquie]

My family was once out walking in Yorktown and came across an old homestead with a trash burn area. We rescued many old bottles. Judging by the age of the bottles the trash pit was used for a long time. No pictures since I gave them all to my Mom, who collected bottles. Only later did we discover that the property was actually part of the Yorktown historical area. We had no idea!! We could have been SOOOO busted. When they made the area a national park, they vacated almost all of the residents. I'm assuming we came across one of those old homesteads.

[jamesp]

Jul 30, 2022 17:58:30 GMT -5 lparsons said:

Omg jamesp! You get to have all the fun🤣Those are some beautiful bottles, especially the purple. I would love to dive for bottles! 🤗

200 yards north of the public dock at Ballast Point Fl. and 100 yards off shore.
You now have the treasure map lparsons:)

[jamesp]

Jul 31, 2022 7:33:25 GMT -5 rockjunquie said:

My family was once out walking in Yorktown and came across an old homestead with a trash burn area. We rescued many old bottles. Judging by the age of the bottles the trash pit was used for a long time. No pictures since I gave them all to my Mom, who collected bottles. Only later did we discover that the property was actually part of the Yorktown historical area. We had no idea!! We could have been SOOOO busted. When they made the area a national park, they vacated almost all of the residents. I'm assuming we came across one of those old homesteads.

Mom's family is from and still living on Amelia Island/Fernandina Beach the 2nd oldest city in the US next to St. Augustine. A friend of the family bought an very old house on the island that had mortared walls of coquina with 100's of 1600's era Spanish bottles mortared into it. No telling how much those bottles were worth Tela.
Before it became a historical preservation my baby brother used to paddle over to Cumberland Island and find bottles left by the Carnegie family and plantation owners before them. The Carnegie money bought in fine crockware and bottles. Bob was the family bottle collector. He would go to the backside of Maddox Park in SW downtown Atlanta where bottle hunters tunneled to the old Atlanta city dump and find amazing bottles and crockwares.

[rockjunquie]

Jul 31, 2022 9:44:13 GMT -5 jamesp said:

Jul 31, 2022 7:33:25 GMT -5 rockjunquie said:

My family was once out walking in Yorktown and came across an old homestead with a trash burn area. We rescued many old bottles. Judging by the age of the bottles the trash pit was used for a long time. No pictures since I gave them all to my Mom, who collected bottles. Only later did we discover that the property was actually part of the Yorktown historical area. We had no idea!! We could have been SOOOO busted. When they made the area a national park, they vacated almost all of the residents. I'm assuming we came across one of those old homesteads.

Mom's family is from and still living on Amelia Island/Fernandina Beach the 2nd oldest city in the US next to St. Augustine. A friend of the family bought an very old house on the island that had mortared walls of coquina with 100's of 1600's era Spanish bottles mortared into it. No telling how much those bottles were worth Tela.
Before it became a historical preservation my baby brother used to paddle over to Cumberland Island and find bottles left by the Carnegie family and plantation owners before them. The Carnegie money bought in fine crockware and bottles. Bob was the family bottle collector. He would go to the backside of Maddox Park in SW downtown Atlanta where bottle hunters tunneled to the old Atlanta city dump and find amazing bottles and crockwares.

I can only imagine the treasures! I think Cumberland Island is one of my favorite places. I'm sure there are lots of secrets there.

[jamesp]

I'm sure my brother could have told you about the treasures rockjunquie. Sounds like you have been there done that. I only went over there a couple of times.

[rockjunquie]

Jul 31, 2022 12:37:16 GMT -5 jamesp said:

I'm sure my brother could have told you about the treasures rockjunquie . Sounds like you have been there done that. I only went over there a couple of times.

Unfortunately, I have only been a few times, too. I want to go back and camp one day. It's primitive camping, but I'd do it in a heart beat. The beach is divine. When I was there, I didn't see a single other person on a beach to rival any Caribbean resort. I just loved it there. The ferry ride was nice, too.