QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Apr 6, 2022 16:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by QuailRiver on Mar 30, 2022 19:47:08 GMT -5
Looks like Stinking Water Creek Plume Agate Yeah that is what I was thinking too - Stinking Water Plume agate from Oregon.
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Post by QuailRiver on Oct 14, 2021 21:20:36 GMT -5
I started out on SC wheels 50 years ago this year. Back in those days diamond wheels were very expensive. Especially the coarser grit diamond wheels.
Used SC wheels from 1971 - 1977. Then bought my first diamond wheels from Roy Greene at Gem Crafters. Found diamond wheels to be much faster, cleaner and safer. Also much less chance of contamination. With using SC you really have to make sure to wash the cabochons off well between grits to prevent contaminating the finer grit wheels, belts and pads.
There is nothing wrong with using SC wheels as a less expensive alternative when getting started. And if you like cabbing while using SC wheels then you'll love cabbing when you move on to diamond wheels. And if you find that you don't really enjoy cabbing then you've saved yourself some cash in learning so.
I've bought many lapidary machines (usually faceting machines)over the years from people, or the estates of people, who thought they would enjoy lapidary and went out and bought some of the best and most expensive equipment available at the time only to find that after a few uses for one reason or another they didn't want to do it anymore and let the equipment sit in their basement or garage unused for years - often decades. I loved finding old machines in barely used condition but can't help but feel for the expensive lesson these folks had to live with.
Sorry for the ramble, but anyhow, when using SC it's really important to remember to let the grinding wheels spin dry after each use before turning the machine off. Otherwise they will dry from the top down and if the machine is turned back on while the wheels are wetter at the bottom then the wheel will be out of balance. And using it this way will get it out of round which usually results in them being permanently out of balance.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Oct 14, 2021 20:45:13 GMT -5
The item in the fourth photo is a slab roller for clay. It's used for making tiles and slab built pottery projects. The two machines in the fifth photo are potter's wheels for turning pots. I believe that they are probably older AMACO brand pottery wheels. The seventh photo is a dust collector for a jewelry or dental buffer like/or similar to the one shown in the last photo. If you gave $500 for the lot you got a really good deal. Assuming they work properly you could recover most of your investment off of the slab roller and pottery wheels. Or you could buy a ceramic kiln and now have TWO expensive hobby!
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Oct 14, 2021 20:14:16 GMT -5
For cabbing high silica content stones like quartz, agate, jasper, opal, etc., I use cerium oxide slurry on damped hard felt. For cabbing most of the softer stones like turquoise, chrysocolla, malachite, howlite, tigeriron, etc., I use *aluminum oxide slurry on slightly dampened suede leather.
Linde "A", Linde "B", Raybrite, and Sapphire Powder are all forms of aluminum oxide.
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Post by QuailRiver on May 19, 2021 16:11:32 GMT -5
The ash cloud traveled all the way across the country to the east coast. I remember seeing it in the skies of NC a day or two later. Four months after the blast my job took me to Spokane, Washington for a couple of days. The countryside and vegetation around Spokane was still covered in ash. It looked like a thin layer of concrete had been sprayed on everything.
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Post by QuailRiver on Apr 25, 2021 13:38:32 GMT -5
I think that Thunderbird Supply still buys scrap silver. I haven't purchased any precious metals for a few years now but when I did I preferred doing business with Thunderbird over Rio for purchasing sheet and casting silver.
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Apr 17, 2021 22:27:36 GMT -5
*THIS LOT IS NOW SOLD* Thank You! 28 lbs of SC Grit and Polish This grit and polish was in a collection of lapidary equipment and supplies I purchased from the heirs of a deceased lapidary craftsman down in north Georgia a few years back. I don't do much tumbling and don't use a rotary or vibratory lap so have never used any of this media. There are two full 5 lb bags of "Coarse" SC grit, one 3 lb bag of "Coarse 60/120" SC grit, one full 5 lb bag of 320 SC grit, one full 5 lb bag of 600 SC grit, and one full 5 lb bag of "Regular Polish". The only bag that appears to have had any material used from it is the 3 lb bag of "Coarse 60/120". I opened the bag marked "Regular Polish" to see what type of polish it may be and it looks like it's probably Alumina Oxide. I then re-stapled the bag of polish shut to keep it clean. Also I have placed each bag of media into it's own separate plastic bag and taped it shut to help avoid cross contamination during shipping. The second photo shows all of this media and polish in a Large Flat Rate Priority Mail Box. The price for this 28 lb lot of SC Tumbling media and polish is $55.00 plus $21.90 shipping via USPS Large Flat Rate Priority Mail Box. If interested in purchasing message me the email address that you would like for me to send you a Pay Pal invoice to. Thank you!
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Post by QuailRiver on Apr 9, 2021 10:23:28 GMT -5
I purchased two Covington 20" saws some years back and both had the same problem. I tried soaking with Kroil for several days with no luck. I eventually had to heat the threaded flange nuts on both saws that holds the blade on to make it expand enough to let loose of the saw blade.
If you try this, to reduce the risk of a fire hazard just make sure to REMOVE ALL OIL and CLEAN ALL OIL RESIDUE OUT OF THE SAW before using a torch to break the flange nut loose. And even after doing that I still draped water dampened towels down the inside sides of the saw's oil reservoirs and underneath the blades in the bottom of the reservoirs just to play it safe. Old oil can eventually dry to a hard substance in a saw that has sat unused for a long time, but it can still be flammable. So if possible it would be best to do this outdoors.
Good Luck!
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Mar 11, 2021 11:27:30 GMT -5
An old used B&I Gem Maker, also commonly sold as the Craftsman Gem Maker is a great low cost starter machine. Tens of thousands of these units were made over a span of about four decades. They made a 6" model and a 10" model. The 10 inch model came with 8" laps and a 10" diamond blade. Both used bronze sleeve bearings and a grease cup so if needed, bearing replacement is inexpensive. While these machines are generally used with flat laps and discs, there is enough hand room to one side, especially on the 10" model, that one can use standard round wheels for preforming the shape of a stone and for producing an inside curve on a cab. The housing, legs and drip pot were all made of cast aluminum and never rust. And there were such a large number of these machines made, and they were made so well, that most are still around and show up fairly frequently on eBay, Craigslist, and at estate sales. The basic 6" model can often be found for under $100 and 10" model for around $200. If sold with newer accessories they may sell for more. But don't place much value on any of the old silicon carbide grinding wheels or MDF backed sanding discs that originally came with the machine. You'll be much happier upgrading to diamond laps and sanding discs. The old style hard felt polishing discs that came with the Gem Maker units originally were very good for use with cerium oxide or tin oxide polish. But the B&I machines have been out of production for over thirty years so unless one is lucky enough to find a unit that has never been used (which does occasionally happen) then the hard felt polishing disc would likely need replacing. Here is what the 6" model looks like: And this is the 10" model: And the 10" model shown with a 10" diamond blade and the rock sawing vise mounted: Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Feb 6, 2021 20:22:57 GMT -5
If I were primarily only going to do tumbling then I would get a Rock Rascal Model "T" combo unit and put a 60 or 80gt diamond wheel on the right side to use for preforming. And with this unit if you ever get the urge to try cabbing you can get additional grits of grinding and sanding wheels to swap out through the grinding and sanding stages of cabbing - plus a spin-on aluminum disc with a hard felt or suede leather pad for polishing. It takes more time and effort cabbing when you have to change wheels at every grit stage than it does with a multi wheel arbor but that is what has always been done with all of the flat lap cabbing units. The time loss of having to change wheels can be offset by doing larger batches of cabs at each stage. Used Rock Rascal model "T" units turn up on eBay from time to time. And Johnson Bros Lapidary sells them new. If buying new I would buy it without the motor. IMO they have the motor mounted too close to the machine plus you can save a few bucks finding your own 1/3hp 1725rpm motor (which is a very common size motor and fairly easy to find a used one cheap).
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Post by QuailRiver on Jan 2, 2021 23:27:36 GMT -5
Looks like you were giving away some of your best material here! Neat stuff. Just testing the waters since it doesn't look like we'll be doing any live shows anytime soon. Plan to get back to clearing out more of the accumulated shop stuff and rock/lapidary books soon. Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Jan 1, 2021 22:57:59 GMT -5
Update: All auctions have now ended and the buyers have been invoiced. Thank you everyone!
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Jan 1, 2021 19:27:53 GMT -5
Just a reminder for those who are interested that these auctions all start ending tonight at around 6:00pm Pacific (9:00pm Eastern). And thank you to all who have participated so far!
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 31, 2020 15:04:58 GMT -5
Once the fluid oil/sludge is drained, a layer of kitty litter (the plain kind - not the dyed and scented stuff) can be poured into the saw reservoir and mixed with the remaining sludge. This makes cleaning it out much easier. You can then scoop most of the sludge/kitty litter mixture out with a wide putty knife. Then a spritzer bottle with WD-40, a stiff nylon bristle brush, and terrycloth rags makes pretty quick work of the final cleaning.
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 31, 2020 13:07:41 GMT -5
That bottom right photo looks like Victoria stone. Lots of nice stuff. You are correct rwa3006 - it is Victoria Stone. Thank you for looking! Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 29, 2020 22:20:52 GMT -5
Update: All auctions have now ended and the buyers have been invoiced. Thank you everyone! Tonight (Tuesday) I listed thirty-five lots of slabs and cabochon pre-forms including several types of picture jasper; Chicken Track, Gunnery Point, Starry Night, Rocky Butte, Cripple Creek, scenic Polychrome, Succor Creek, and more. Also lots of other types of Jasper; Ocean Jasper, Morgan Hill Poppy, Guadalupe Poppy, red Owyhee Dendritic, and more. And Agates too; Burro Creek, Agua Nueva, Dryhead, KY Agate, Red Laguna Lace, plus a few other varieties of Mexican lace agates. Plus Dino Bone, Victoria Stone, Rhodochrosite and more. All of these listings are now on eBay as 3-Day auctions, so all bidding will end this Friday evening. All lots have a starting bid of $9.99 and with no reserves. If interested you may view these listings at the following link: tinyurl.com/y8yclau6Or if for some reason this link doesn't work for you then you can find my listings by doing an eBay advanced search for seller QuailRiver. Thanks for looking! Larry C.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 22, 2020 0:57:37 GMT -5
I haven't done a lot of tumbling but I remember a guy I used to know who did claim that on some of the tough to polish materials that he would tumble polish them dry with cut up pieces of leather and a crushed bar of ZAM (ZAM is a mixture of aluminum oxide & chrome oxide with a wax binder). And sometimes just with plain aluminum oxide. Which makes sense to me because I have found that when polishing cabochons, aluminum oxide on slightly damp leather does a good job on some of the more tough to polish soft materials.
Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 21, 2020 13:15:12 GMT -5
I had a message this morning about this arbor that made me realize I probably need to add more information. So Below are two photos of an identical Poly Arbor with the dimensions imposed on them. As equipped, this model Poly Arbor is ideal to use for making a flat lap cabbing machine or dedicated cabochon polishing machine. Or an 8" or smaller diameter bladed saw. But for anything with larger than 8" diameter discs/wheels/blades you'll need larger flange washers. And while many of the older model faceting machines had smaller diameter platens (this Poly Arbor has a 1-3/4" diameter platen/flange washer). When faceting, a larger platen like what is used on modern faceting machines will help reduce lap wobble and lap run-out. And will improve the repeatability of your machine. Larry C.
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Post by QuailRiver on Dec 19, 2020 16:10:39 GMT -5
Since the box of rocks i got from you was so nice , better get my saw going . I will take the feed motor off your hands . Sending PM Great! I'll send you a Pay Pal Invoice in a few minutes. Larry C.
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